moonarchia
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New User Cybercuck. Once lived in Chicago....Asshat recently awarded.
I don't get it, what does that mean? How am I an asshat?
Izo
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Sheriff Cad
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They're saying you're a new user and there's another user who is an Asshat thats from Chicago. They're just being silly since your name is provocative.
moonarchia
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I really wish I didn't have a conscience because Ozempic would be such a lifesaver for me. I have an emotional dependence on food that's been there for most of my adult life and being lean has always been difficult because of it. Thing is I look at ozempic as cheating and can never take it for that reason. I struggle with diet but rather do it that way because if I ever come off Ozempic, I likely put the weight back on.
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Haus
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I felt this way for quite a while, now I am embracing better living through pharmaceutical sciences. I'm still not taking a GLP because I don't have that much weight, and I know the stuff I'm about to get back on (Testosterone supplementation, creatine, and possible a couple other bits once I consult with my Dr) will handle the remaining 20-30 pounds I could use to drop.
But as much as it seems like a "cheaters" way out, it's a tool like anything else. And if you think it's crazy, just wait until the next generation of peptides start hitting and you can take a pill once a day to make your body do all the metabolistic things it normally does when you work out regularly... (Called exercise memetics)
Control
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(Not exactly a reply, mostly posting because I'm sitting in the hospital with some family thinking health thoughts and thought it might be of use to someone).
I know I have some posts critical of the glp's, mostly skeptical of the long term effects iirc, but I decided to try it out a while back. Basically, I figured it's a tradoff of potential pharma-induced horrors versus whatever horrors come to people who try to be fat and old at the same time. (yeah, I know I could just eat better and exercise more instead, but I've managed to go my entire life without ever managing to do that enough to make a difference). I've always been pretty healthy for a fat guy, none of the typical problems except for being fat, weight has been pretty much stable for like 25+ years. I knew the clock was ticking on that though.
The shit works though. Still fat, but less fat than I've been since high school. Down over 100lbs, about 1/3 just from ketoing, 1/3 on sema which I quit after a few months because it made me feel like utter trash, and now down another 1/3 on reta. No real side effects on the reta, other than the feeling like utter trash, so I guess that's just how you feel when you eat little enough to really drop weight. Like I literally feel worse than I've ever felt over any reasonable period of time. It feels surreal to be like yeah, 100+lb fatter me had way more energy and felt way better in basically every way, but that's where we're at. I know (or at least I really fucking hope) that that will get better eventually so I'm just trying to stubborn my way though it. There's a lot of crazy shit in peptide-land when you start poking it, and I've been thinking over going whole-ass into it to try and fix everything. If I suddenly stop posting, I probably should have half-assed it instead.
moonarchia
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Just focus on eating some lean proteins and vegges. Get into the habit of stretching as often as possible for 15 min or so. Get on a tread mill 1-3 times a week and you will start feeling real good.
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Haus
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That's been one of my biggest concerns involving the GLPs, the downshift in metabolistic energy. That's one are I fight against right now, I'll have cycles I go through where I just have serious issues generating the energy to get up, get moving, and do shit. I don't want to put more of a damper on that.
All the stuff I'm considering now are things which I know boost my bodies energy cycle. Boost it back up to where it was when I was on this "stack" before, mix back in one or two HIIT workouts a week and weight should start managing it's way off.
The wild card I'm waiting to see if how the testing of some new of the new peptides which work in different ways go. One that was interesting to me was SLU-PP-332 , but it's just in animal testing now, and I don't feel like being a guinea pig gym monkey and treating my body like an experiment to that degree yet. If you listen to it's proponents (People are already buying the "for lab research only" bottles of it and taking it) it's a panacea, but I want to see what real testing boils out on it, especially any side effects.
Sheriff Cad
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This is normal to feel like trash when cutting, pharma assisted or not. When you get to maintenance (i.e. you can start eating at maintenance or slightly over) you should feel like you have way MORE energy than when you were 100+ pounds heavier because your body isn't fighting to carry and supply all that extra fat.
I've never had to cut 100 but I've cut 20 pounds probably 5 different times in life attempting to keep weight in check and every time it sucks and is miserable, but its necessary.
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Khane
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Feeling worse at 100lbs lighter seems a whole lot more like GLP side effect symptoms than just the general lethargy or mental exhaustion people can feel when trying to aggressively cut weight. It really doesn't make any sense for him to legitimately feel physically worse after losing 100lbs. Might want to actually talk to a doctor about that.
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Sheriff Cad
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Other than read the basic blood tests, doctors don't really help with shit like this. I'd definitely get a complete blood and hormone panel and let the doctor look at it, but I wouldn't expect revelations. Trial and error wise I'd suggest he eat at or above maintenance for a week and see if that changes anything, and then go off the glp-1 for a few weeks and eat at or above maintenance and see how he feels at this weight.
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Yeah, definitely a bit of the wild west, I would just assume though that anything that doesn't have a trail announced yet won't or at least won't in a timeframe that you could plan for. Some of these things have been around forever and no trials, so I'm left to assume that they don't think they would pass the trials or they don't think they could make enough money on them to be worth it. Either way, anecdotes may be all we ever get for most of them.
I've been checking with the dr every 3 months and bloodwork every 6 since I started. She's like "well, eat more protein and exercise more", which I mean is good advice but not exactly groundbreaking. I've been trying to get at least 100g protein per day, but activity has been absolutely shot. Bloodwork all comes back in range, last testosterone read was in the 800s but I'd been fasting for like 3 days (not exactly on purpose), which I've heard can wonk up the results. 600 and 400 in the previous two tests. Free test is only at 8 though which looks low enough to be problematic but it's "in range", and it doesn't sound like something that they're really familiar with there. I did take the week off the meds for Thanksgiving and Christmas and felt a little better both times. Calorie intake was still way off of normal but had a few "normal" meals, so I'm sure less med and more eating would make me feel better.
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Haus
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This has been a strange experience for me. I have had the same PCP for around 15 years, even through them moving practices. Within the last year it finally happened where I am getting nudged into using her PA instead because she's "always booked" unless I want to schedule an appointment 2 months out.
I didn't like the idea at first. But I think maybe I just got a fresh out of school PA or something who is still remarkably unbeaten by the system so far and when I ask things she honestly tries to get real answers for me. Including dropping me notes a day or two after in the patient portal if something I asked caused her to look something up and she had ideas. She's even come up with some suggestions to help get me off of some of the short list of daily pills I take, and made suggestions about *gasp* figuring out the real root cause to a couple of my nagging issues.
Only time I've seen a care provider give this level of a shit in the past has been if you were paying a few grand a year extra for concierge services.
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Sheriff Cad
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Not saying this PA isn't doing good work for you but most of that shit you have to do yourself. Look up everything yourself, read papers yourself, if you have nagging issues that you want to get to the root cause of, most medical people are going to slap a band aid on you and send you on your way. It sounds like some therapy-speak, but you have to own your own health outcome, they aren't going to manage it for you.
Haus
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I agree, and it's usually the fact that I'm brining up research, or asking questions about root causes, and things such as that that my PCP would often gloss over, but this PA seems to take seriously and dig in on which is why I appreciate her.
My PCP loved starting off any diagnosis with "So you're a guy in his 50's who thinks he can still....." which she thinks is funny, but I stopped finding funny after a bit. The PA, she'll dive into explanations, or legitimately tell me "I'm going to have to check on that some but I will let you know" and then does actually let me know.
If I am looking into something and there seems to be a solid answer I'll often pursue it, but at the same time, sometimes all the research in the world I can do just seems to arm me with oddly specific questions to pepper a medical professional with, heh.
