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Insurance DOESN'T cover it. If you're in the US, google up "Concierge Doctor" in your area. The idea is you pay a yearly "membership" to the practice essentially. What this allows is that instead of being like a normal PCP where the Dr needs to have thousands of patients to make the practice sustainable due to how insurance pays out they make enough money on the memberships to do with a TON fewer patients. What this does is it let's them given honest and dedicated attention to the patients they have. They still bill what they can to your insurance, but the yearly fee for them won't be covered.

If you've ever become hyper-frustrated with how is feels like you struggle to get a Dr appointment, have to schedule one way far out, can never get one when you have something come up suddenly, and then when you get to the Dr you wait a long time, get put into a room talk to a nurse for a while, then get MAYBE 5-10 minutes with the actual Dr, then feel like they hand you a "one size fits most" diagnosis (usually with a script for whatever the latest pharma rep coming through was pimping) and you have some cash to spare, then you're the target audience for Concierge Doctors.

When she was seeing one my wife never had to wait more than 2 days to see the Dr. When she went in there were nurses there, but most of the time was with the actual Dr. The Doctor would explain anything she had a question about. The Doctor would answer emails, their patient portal, and even texts. She had the Doctors actual cell phone number if she needed to call it. The doctor would coordinate to make sure the various specialists and diagnostics were all on the same page.

OTOH, it added a few benjis a month onto the budget.

But with what she was going through I consider it worth every penny we spent at the time.

Very interesting.. I never knew about this.

So do you still keep your employer's insurance? My premiums all in are about $225/month but it's a nice HSA plan where after deductible ($1750) is met, they pay 90% of the cost.

Otherwise doesn't that get really expensive? Like you would be paying full price for imaging and whatnot?
 

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Very interesting.. I never knew about this.

So do you still keep your employer's insurance? My premiums all in are about $225/month but it's a nice HSA plan where after deductible ($1750) is met, they pay 90% of the cost.

Otherwise doesn't that get really expensive? Like you would be paying full price for imaging and whatnot?
Oh yeah, we still had my employer based insurance, and they still billed a ton to it. But you end up paying a premium out of pocket for that heightened level of attention and dedication. When I said it added a hundred or two to the budget every month that was on top of having my insurance for us through my employer (which my employer subsidizes a lot of but I still pay some there too). It's not a cheap option, but at the time my wife's health situation seemed to warrant needing to get a better and more focused level of attention than just the insurance coverage would get us.
 

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Personally, the feeling I get from the Cad Cad commentary on this is one of a legitimately good intentioned advice, but that came across a little odd. If I was going to go full tilt boogie and dive into all things medical enough to be able to self diagnose or fully guide my care regardless of my Dr or her PAs opinion I believe it would introduce a higher chance of medical misstep.
I never said do this, I said take ownership of your own health and don't wait for them to do it for you. You have to be as knowledgeable as you can be so you can ask the correct questions, know what to tell them, and accept the guidance they may or may not give.

This was also all in the context of low energy and brain fog in the cutting/GLP-1 department, all a PCP is going to do is tell you to go off the GLP-1, which is exactly what I told you to do. They're going to run blood tests and hormone tests (which I said you should let them do and interpret!) but you need to be as knowledgable as possible so you can make these decisions and not trust it to a rando PCP.

How this came to be "Cad says you should treat your own cancer lol" is beyond me. Sorry for trying to help.
 
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I never said do this, I said take ownership of your own health and don't wait for them to do it for you. You have to be as knowledgeable as you can be so you can ask the correct questions, know what to tell them, and accept the guidance they may or may not give.

This was also all in the context of low energy and brain fog in the cutting/GLP-1 department, all a PCP is going to do is tell you to go off the GLP-1, which is exactly what I told you to do. They're going to run blood tests and hormone tests (which I said you should let them do and interpret!) but you need to be as knowledgable as possible so you can make these decisions and not trust it to a rando PCP.

How this came to be "Cad says you should treat your own cancer lol" is beyond me. Sorry for trying to help.
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I would expect if she had cybersecurity questions or concerns she would trust my advice
The real crux of this is, what % of people in the cybersecurity industry would you take advice from? What % of lawyers would Cad take advice from?
Yes, trust the expert, but first you have to be sure that you're actually talking to one, and probably doesn't hurt to consider their incentives and constraints too. It's not that I think all doctors are bad, but some seem awfully quick on the draw with "generally accepted/safe" recommendations and very uncomfortable with things they don't commonly deal with. fat? "here's your statin!" irritable? "here's your ssri!" slightly elevated a1c? "here's your insulin!" (this was the wife's, mentioned it a while back). want to check vitamin/hormone levels? "why would you want to do that?"
 
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I'm on a tablet and despise typing on it but I'll say this, the best doctor I have met in my life was an Iranian general surgeon in Rock Hill SC.
 

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228 -> 213 so far just letting ozempic take the wheel, currently week 7 and on 0.5mg. Haven't really started exercising since I got hit with that nasty stomach virus and still unsure if I'm 100%. That one felt like it took a piece of my soul with it.

I think week 9 I jump to 1.0mg, and then I'm unsure where I'll land. I meet with my PCP in February and get my a1c taken. I'm going to assume it's much better than previous years just based on my numbers.
 
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228 -> 213 so far just letting ozempic take the wheel, currently week 7 and on 0.5mg. Haven't really started exercising since I got hit with that nasty stomach virus and still unsure if I'm 100%. That one felt like it took a piece of my soul with it.

I think week 9 I jump to 1.0mg, and then I'm unsure where I'll land. I meet with my PCP in February and get my a1c taken. I'm going to assume it's much better than previous years just based on my numbers.

How many calories do you estimate eating? That's about a 2lb loss per week which is close to what I'm targeting at 180lbs, but I'm not on ozempic.
 

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How many calories do you estimate eating? That's about a 2lb loss per week which is close to what I'm targeting at 180lbs, but I'm not on ozempic.
To be honest I have no idea, I'll have to take a 'normal day' and calculate and post here. Some days I really just don't feel like eating pretty much at all.
 

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To be honest I have no idea, I'll have to take a 'normal day' and calculate and post here. Some days I really just don't feel like eating pretty much at all.
This seems to be normal for the Ozympic track. Essentially it slows your digestive metabolism a bit, which is the appetite suppressant side of it. For me it's always been about the math. If you have a smart watch (like I have a Samsung Galaxywatch) it can help you by giving you an estimate of your daily caloric burn rate. The golden rule is that for every 500 calories a day you're under that burn rate you should lose a pound per week. If you're losing 2 pounds a week that means you're functionally under your burn rate by around 1000 calories a day.

Question is why, normal dieting would say you just restrict your intake to get to the 1000 calories a day deficit. With GLPs it changes that math a little and you might be ingesting the food but not digesting it the same way (i.e. your harvesting calories from food less efficiently). It could also be that your appetite just gets suppressed enough you actually aren't consuming as much.

Either way, if you're getting 2 lbs a week off without needing to shift up your existence, then I'd say the GLP is doing it's job for you. If you end up on the path most of the people I know end up on it will be ramped up over time and eventually you'll hit a plateau.
 

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This seems to be normal for the Ozympic track. Essentially it slows your digestive metabolism a bit, which is the appetite suppressant side of it. For me it's always been about the math. If you have a smart watch (like I have a Samsung Galaxywatch) it can help you by giving you an estimate of your daily caloric burn rate. The golden rule is that for every 500 calories a day you're under that burn rate you should lose a pound per week. If you're losing 2 pounds a week that means you're functionally under your burn rate by around 1000 calories a day.

Question is why, normal dieting would say you just restrict your intake to get to the 1000 calories a day deficit. With GLPs it changes that math a little and you might be ingesting the food but not digesting it the same way (i.e. your harvesting calories from food less efficiently). It could also be that your appetite just gets suppressed enough you actually aren't consuming as much.

Either way, if you're getting 2 lbs a week off without needing to shift up your existence, then I'd say the GLP is doing it's job for you. If you end up on the path most of the people I know end up on it will be ramped up over time and eventually you'll hit a plateau.
I can only really go by feels data because I'm not doing any math yet, but essentially I don't get any food cravings between meals now and I get fuller quicker when I'm eating a meal.

As an aside the other day I took my kids to McDonald's and got less than I usually get. Halfway through my fries I started getting pretty full and ended up throwing away some of my meal. That NEVER happened before the GLP-1. So whatever it's doing seems to be two pronged - I eat less outside of meals and I eat less at meals.

Every few days or so I am not hungry at all (maybe I ate more the day before?) and have to actively force myself to eat so my sugar doesn't drop.

Hopefully some of the low sugar stuff can get minimized if I am able to get off some pills.

Either way, I really went on this for blood sugar control with weight control being a secondary function. Just interesting seeing the weight fall off so easily. My brain is definitely wired to overeat, so it's kind of miraculous how fast that changed.
 
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Been fighting a bad cold the past few days, and it appears it may be our old friend COVID. I am past the aching and high temp and hot/cold flashes, but just today I lost my ability to taste sweet foods. Last time it was all foods, so I guess that's just how it goes. Hopefully it comes back again, because it makes a lot of foods taste fucking weird. Oh well.
 
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Don't think I ever said what my final diagnosis was. MAC. Multiple Autoimmune Condition. They have a chart, type 1,2, or 3. I have several from 2 and 3. Diabetes near all my life but the others all at once. Doctors at the mayo says it just happens. They have an auto immune clinic there. Type 1 diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, scleroderma, and lupus. The bummer was there's a test for lupus but <5% with it never show positive which I didn't. Apparently some are related like someone with lupus has arthitis most often.

All of it sucks but the leaching of minerals out of your system sucks ass.

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Rare to have days of between xmas and ny for me, mmmm, foood. Bike is on hiatus, snow everywhere. Anywho, ate too much and apparently not 25 yo, constipated like hell. Took a microlax, and pressed for an eternity. Major dookie said hello, 30x5cm, almost solid. Didn't flush the first time, stuck up like loch ness. Holy shit, I can't wait to get back in the saddle and stay healthy. Gawd damnit, been years since it was this bad.
 
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Don't think I ever said what my final diagnosis was. MAC. Multiple Autoimmune Condition. They have a chart, type 1,2, or 3. I have several from 2 and 3. Diabetes near all my life but the others all at once. Doctors at the mayo says it just happens. They have an auto immune clinic there. Type 1 diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, scleroderma, and lupus. The bummer was there's a test for lupus but <5% with it never show positive which I didn't. Apparently some are related like someone with lupus has arthitis most often.

All of it sucks but the leaching of minerals out of your system sucks ass.

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What a clusterfuck but at least it's finally an answer I guess? Can your symptoms be managed to some degree now?
 

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What a clusterfuck but at least it's finally an answer I guess? Can your symptoms be managed to some degree now?

Yes and no. I know what I have now. Other than the diabetes which I have never had much issue with keeping my A1C in the 5s which is borderline non diabetic/pre diabetic. The other stuff is normally treated with corticosteroids, which raises my blood sugar. The doctor that referred me to the Mayo doesn't accept their diagnosis.
 

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I can only really go by feels data because I'm not doing any math yet, but essentially I don't get any food cravings between meals now and I get fuller quicker when I'm eating a meal.

As an aside the other day I took my kids to McDonald's and got less than I usually get. Halfway through my fries I started getting pretty full and ended up throwing away some of my meal. That NEVER happened before the GLP-1. So whatever it's doing seems to be two pronged - I eat less outside of meals and I eat less at meals.

Every few days or so I am not hungry at all (maybe I ate more the day before?) and have to actively force myself to eat so my sugar doesn't drop.

Hopefully some of the low sugar stuff can get minimized if I am able to get off some pills.

Either way, I really went on this for blood sugar control with weight control being a secondary function. Just interesting seeing the weight fall off so easily. My brain is definitely wired to overeat, so it's kind of miraculous how fast that changed.
I've read the last few posts of yours and I would caution you - you're on a very slippery path right now unless you start to incorporate lifestyle changes like daily exercise and better, cleaner eating habits. If you don't and just continue with the status quo, you are primed to not only put all of that weight back on, but actually end up even heavier than when you started.

One thing we know is that the body is incredibly good at adapting. Your current lifestyle is teaching it that it needs less and less food to operate. The problem is at some point, you're going to hit the wall for what the Ozempic dosage can do for you and plateau. Which means, upping the dosage (typically double but not always). Which will give you another month or three before your body then adapts to that dosage and plateaus again, which leads to another doubling of the dosage, and so on and so forth.

The point here is that at some point, you won't be able to continue relying on the Ozempic meds as a tenable solution to manage your appetite. Your hunger will start to increase causing you to eat more. Worse yet, your body's metabolism is complete shit at this point because you've basically been training it to be in starvation mode all this time, so when all the extra food comes, it starts storing it all as fat.

This is why the Ozempic plan fails for so many people. They lose weight quickly thinking they've accomplished something great when in reality, most have simply set themselves up for disaster.

Your only way to make it work is A) you have to stop eating garbage like fast food and start taking in a cleaner diet and B) you MUST start exercising. If it's just walking at first, it's better than nothing but ideally, you're going to also incorporate resistance training in there to start building muscle. Muscle is critical, even moreso as we get older, and the only way to build it is through resistance training.

If you follow that advice and put some better habits into practice, you will almost undoubtedly reach and maintain a healthy weight. It should also have a huge effect on your A1C and blood sugar too.

Good luck with it.
 

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Wegovy pills in your area soon. Fuck dieting. Do it with pills. Also, slightlty related, I need Novo stocks to hit +900 again, lowly 320 atm.