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Spiteful + Lady in White deck I am feeling really good about:
WIP Spiteful Lady
I want to squeeze in a Grand Archivist but not sure where yet, I'm liking this list a lot. Maybe play testing will prove differently, but I feel like it could be strong. You have the (mostly) standard Spiteful package, and I packed in 8 dragons to keep the Duskbreakers, which is necessary for early removal, but added taunts that can benefit from Lady, as well as Rush cards for more board control.
Slightly weak in Resource generation, but you have Spiteful+Glimmerroot for pseudo draw, and of course Cameleos for spying and maybe sniping a good impactful card.
WIP Spiteful Lady
- 2 x Faerie Dragon
- 2 x Mind Control
- 2 x Northshire Cleric
- 2 x Tar Creeper
- 2 x Curious Glimmerroot
- 2 x Primordial Drake
- 2 x Free From Amber
- 2 x Cobalt Scalebane
- 2 x Shadow Ascendant
- 2 x Duskbreaker
- 2 x Spiteful Summoner
- 2 x Muck Hunter
- 1 x Lady in White
- 1 x Chameleos
- 2 x Witchwood Grizzly
- 2 x Swift Messenger
I want to squeeze in a Grand Archivist but not sure where yet, I'm liking this list a lot. Maybe play testing will prove differently, but I feel like it could be strong. You have the (mostly) standard Spiteful package, and I packed in 8 dragons to keep the Duskbreakers, which is necessary for early removal, but added taunts that can benefit from Lady, as well as Rush cards for more board control.
Slightly weak in Resource generation, but you have Spiteful+Glimmerroot for pseudo draw, and of course Cameleos for spying and maybe sniping a good impactful card.
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Ya I didn't have it in mind as an aggro deck, but as more a hero power focused deck. Hero power every turn, and be defensive with your minions vs aggro and hope the steady pressure from your hero power finishes them off. No idea if the concept is sound or viable, but there it is. I think the balance is do you have enough beasts to activate kill command, while having enough elementals to activate blazecaller? Definitely needs to be playtested to see what's what. Your aggro version with the combo finisher might be better, for sure.
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So I wrote it out (correct me if my math is wrong), and I believe an ideal ODDS hunter plays out like this, assuming no healing/armor gain from your opponent. (This also only counts hero power damage.)
1 mana: Play a 1 drop, 4 cards left
2 mana: Hero power, -3 damage to enemy, 4 cards left
3 mana: Play a 1 drop + hero power -6 damage, 4 cards left
4 mana: Hero power + 2 1 drops -9 damage, 3 cards left
5 mana: Hero power + 3 drop -12 damage, 3 cards left
6 mana: Hero power + 3 drop -15 damage, 3 cards left
7 mana: Hero power + 5 drop clockwork/blackwald pixie + 2x HP -21 damage, 3 cards left
8 mana: Hero power + kill command + 1/3 mana beast -29 damage, 2 cards left
9 mana: Hero power -32
So that led me to think, why not just add a shitload of charge minions and just hit the face, classic hunter style?I have no idea if something like this will be viable, or cancer, or dogshit, but check this out:
Odds SMORC Hunter
I'm pretty sure you can burn people out REALLY fast with something like this. It might need some silence tech cards like ironbeak owl to get past taunts.
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The fact of the matter is 2mana for 3dmg is not efficient. It's value as a hero power is to utilize extra mana when you're already making strong plays. A proper opening aggro deck can kill on turns 5-7 if the opposing deck rolls low on responses. What your describing high rolls a 9 turn kill, ignoring your opponent countering any of your plays with removal, taunts, armor, heals.
Add up what you've played that isn't hero powers. 4x 1 drops, 2x 3 drops, 1x 5 drop, 1 kill command. By turn 9 a proper deck will have rolled you hard with real threats being played every turn.
Add up what you've played that isn't hero powers. 4x 1 drops, 2x 3 drops, 1x 5 drop, 1 kill command. By turn 9 a proper deck will have rolled you hard with real threats being played every turn.
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Yes, I'm aware of all that. I wasn't describing a full deck interaction, I was just separating out the HP damage to see what it looked like, regardless of opponent actions. To say it another way, how good is the hero power with Baku and clockwork/pixie just by itself, before you consider what to surround those cards with.
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So I wrote it out (correct me if my math is wrong), and I believe an ideal ODDS hunter plays out like this, assuming no healing/armor gain from your opponent. (This also only counts hero power damage.)
1 mana: Play a 1 drop, 4 cards left2 mana: Hero power, -3 damage to enemy, 4 cards left3 mana: Play a 1 drop + hero power -6 damage, 4 cards left4 mana: Hero power + 2 1 drops -9 damage, 3 cards left5 mana: Hero power + 3 drop -12 damage, 3 cards left6 mana: Hero power + 3 drop -15 damage, 3 cards left7 mana: Hero power + 5 drop clockwork/blackwald pixie + 2x HP -21 damage, 3 cards left8 mana: Hero power + kill command + 1/3 mana beast -29 damage, 2 cards left9 mana: Hero power -32So that led me to think, why not just add a shitload of charge minions and just hit the face, classic hunter style?
I have no idea if something like this will be viable, or cancer, or dogshit, but check this out:
Odds SMORC Hunter
I'm pretty sure you can burn people out REALLY fast with something like this. It might need some silence tech cards like ironbeak owl to get past taunts.
I mean.. I'm not a pro deck builder. Most of my decks turn out to be trash. I've been able to take proven concepts and tweak them slightly to get high rank/Legend. When it comes to a deck like this, I assume it'll be shit, and I build it to be "fun", such as trying to pull off a 30+ damage hero power, and if somehow it seems like it's doing better than intended, tweak it up.
I do not anticipate your list working due to the sheer number of bad cards.
Timber Wolf, Buzzard, Boar, Wolfrider
no silence
no hunter's mark
no tracking
jeweled macaw in an aggro deck
I do think an aggro odds deck might work, but it won't include Automaton/Pixie and will just lean on the extra 1dmg from HP for additional pressure.
just my 2c
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Lol, no worries bro. That deck was kind of a joke. And ditto on any decks I make.
It's just fun to bounce ideas back and forth. I can foresee some form of SMORC/Face Baku Hunter turning into cancer though. Seems there's a lot of burn potential there.
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Legendary seems good. So if you play mostly minions you get a pretty full board. Still a super RNG card since it's RNG on top of RNG, but still a very powerful effect.
But of course this is Rogue and I have no idea if this Archetype will work at all. I'm going to say .. no. It'll be a fun deck, but not very competitive. Rogue just can't play late game decks like this. Rogue decks are easy to predict: It's always a variant of Miracle & some janky OP deck that shouldn't work, but does.
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Nice that it's actually cheap enough to be playable. Looking forward to even more aggro mages...
But I'll try it with elementals.
I'm thinking you could do a spiteful mage similar to priest. 4 big spells and the rest minions/DK
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1st expansion + rotation of the past 2 years has been best meta ever (imo). It's probably worth if you have the itch, then can bitch/moan/quit for the next ones if you get fed up
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I just watched DisguistedToast lose to some moron on a tournament 3-0. (ok nvm he actually managed to throw the third game)
Why am I calling him a moron? He made five huge mistakes, but won because his archivist free from ambered a noggenfogger on the board, which kinda cripples Exodia mage. And then he failed to realize he won when RNG noggenfoggering set Toast to exactly 1 hp, because he doesn't understand fatigue damage (Toast lost the hp when goingextra turn). When Toast clicked the extra turn and died from 1 fatigue damage, Blah went completely nuts with surprise.
Why am I calling him a moron? He made five huge mistakes, but won because his archivist free from ambered a noggenfogger on the board, which kinda cripples Exodia mage. And then he failed to realize he won when RNG noggenfoggering set Toast to exactly 1 hp, because he doesn't understand fatigue damage (Toast lost the hp when goingextra turn). When Toast clicked the extra turn and died from 1 fatigue damage, Blah went completely nuts with surprise.
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Looks pretty good to me. 2/2 is weak for 4 mana, but puts a 3 cost secret into play, which has the potential to be really good (Discover mechanic implies it will be mage only secrets, not any class).
Even more evidence for a spiteful mage archetype incoming.
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