Hearthstone

Barraco Bisi_sl said:

Making it the deathrattle mana wyrm (remove hp buff) seems like the logical nerf.

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I think that'd be too similar and boring. All they need to do is make it 2 mana. Or even a 2/1 for 1 mana would be better (although preferably 2 mana). Being 1 mana with 2 health just makes it impossibly hard to remove. It gets out of Backstab + Dagger / Wrath / Frostbolt range by the time you can cast them. Either you waste a 2 mana removal spell via coin on a 1 mana card on turn 1, which already gives the Undertaker value, or you take 2-6 damage and have to wait until AFTER turn 2 to remove it, because it has 4 health by then, and it's now a 2 for 1. It literally almost always gives insane value, way too much for a 1 mana card.

Well, with all this Undertaker running around, I sure picked a hell of a time to learn Handlock.

I agree it should be changed to a 1/3 and gain attack only, but because in deathrattle vs deathrattle decks the person going 2nd is usually at a disadvantage since you have to worry about the first player buffing their undertaker before yours.

Its hard to say the card is op when its only being run in some hunter decks and zoo currently and you don't see either at the top of the ladder.

I think a 2/1 for 1 mana would be enough of a problem solved.

Guys, what happened to nerfing warlock ability ?

Zaphid_sl said:

Guys, what happened to nerfing warlock ability ?

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Talking about the Warlock ability is something that will be an ongoing problem, not an absolute emergency. But don't you doubt that there will come a time when it needs changed, everyone accepts that.

The Ancient_sl said:

I think a 2/1 for 1 mana would be enough of a problem solved.

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Yeah at least as a 2/1 you can still trade with it.

mures_sl said:

I agree it should be changed to a 1/3 and gain attack only, but because in deathrattle vs deathrattle decks the person going 2nd is usually at a disadvantage since you have to worry about the first player buffing their undertaker before yours.

Its hard to say the card is op when its only being run in some hunter decks and zoo currently and you don't see either at the top of the ladder.

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Is this a joke? I watched multiple streamers face an unending legion of undertaker hunter decks at the top of the ladder yesterday.

Gavinmad_sl said:

Is this a joke? I watched multiple streamers face an unending legion of undertaker hunter decks at the top of the ladder yesterday.

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/shrug I haven't seen nearly as many as of late and I don't remember seeing strifecro que into a single one last night while watching him.

I didn't watch him long but I saw a couple handlock mirrors and then he lost a match against zoo specifically because Undertaker grew out of hellfire range.

Okay, I'm done, just done. I can't play this game anymore. Was trying to grind for gold/dust for the expansion, but playing against OP Undertaker 90% of the games is just mind numbing and frustrating. I can't do it. I'll come back and check out the expansion, but fuck this. HS is headed toward a downward spiral.

Play Paladin. Not too many problems a Wild Pyromancer/Equality/Consecrate mix cant solve. Throw in a couple Humility/Peacekeeper and Stampeding Kodos and profit.

Lleauaric_sl said:

Play Paladin. Not too many problems a Wild Pyromancer/Humility/Consecrate mix cant solve. Throw in a couple Humility/Peacekeeper and Stampeding Kodos and profit.

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You're assuming stomping them is the main issue. It's not. Having fun is, since, well, it's a game. I don't have fun playing the same exact game for 2 hours.

Morrow_sl said:

Okay, I'm done, just done. I can't play this game anymore. Was trying to grind for gold/dust for the expansion, but playing against OP Undertaker 90% of the games is just mind numbing and frustrating. I can't do it. I'll come back and check out the expansion, but fuck this. HS is headed toward a downward spiral.

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y u no?

Yeah, the only deck I don't run owls in right now is Miracle. Running one in that might not be a bad idea either. Hoot hoot, motherfucker.

I rarely have problems with UTs. I don't know. I mostly play Shaman, Priest, and Rogue. Plenty of low mana direct damage there to kill that before it becomes a problem.

slippery_sl said:

I'll take playing against Hunters all day over playing against Priests

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I agree with this, Priest and Paladin both zzzzzzzzzzz.