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Am I just misinterpreting what you're saying? 2'6" and 30" are the exact same measurement.

I feel like the really long soffits are on a lot of the really modern construction lake houses by me (albeit with a pretty low pitched roof as well). I like the look, but I have no clue about the pros/cons of such a design. One thing that does end up looking a little goofy are the downspouts.

This is a Google street view I grabbed of a place I used to live by. I'd guess these were closer to 2', but it illustrates the downspout goofiness and how the gutters factor in.

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No, I just mixed my measurements display when typing it out instead of saying 30" twice. And his detail does literally say 2' - 6" but that is not what I'd say in real life bc 30" is faster. Hah, my bad for swapping in paragraph.

I see what you're saying about the downspout. That's interesting and I bet there's a way to handle that with gutter design and the overall roof design.

lurkingdirk lurkingdirk pointed out a couple benefits. You get better rain and protection from the overhang, solar shielding bc there's more shade, etc. It isn't really a roof pitch thing as you can have larger overhang regardless. One downside the builder keeps referring to is header height of the windows and how a deeper soffit requires him to drop the windows a bit more. I'm guessing this is just because with a larger overhang you occlude the window if it ends up buried underneath the eave?

I'm almost to the point of just saying screw it and go for it. Most builder grade spec home stuff around here is 16".

He said this one is 16" with 6" gutter so 22" total. But my house is two story and larger overall and it wouldn't look the same. I don't know.

*re-sized since I'm not on mobile anymore
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May as well keep up the spam.

Footings were trenched and poured last week.

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I did an overlay with the foundation drawing just to goof around and see what lined up. Obviously, it isn't going to align perfectly. It is just a stationary drone aerial pic not a georeferenced orthomosaic. I would like to find out from builder tomorrow why some of the interior footings weren't poured. I'm guessing there's something on the original plans that I'm just overlooking that differentiates between a footing and a foundation or whatever the terms are. Basically, all the connecting interior ones aren't there.

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Block work may begin this week, but it may also be a downpour all week long, so who knows.
 
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Messed around this morning and took a series of photos at the site and used WebODM to put together a 3D model.

Shockingly easy and fast. Pretty cool though! Should be really interesting to see how it looks when framing starts.

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For a second thought you had a giant radioactive act on the bottom left.
 
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For a second thought you had a giant radioactive act on the bottom left.

That's going to be the driveway, but they've laid that down to park and pull in heavy equipment, so it doesn't further tear up the lot in the event of rain and such.

Daddy Bandwagon Bandwagon going to make fun of my noob drone shots.

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Inspector paid off by the sellers? The only thing that makes sense, aside from sheer incompetence / malfeasance.
We whernt as hosed as him but same thing on smaller scale. Inspector missed stuff though he was at least trying to be low key negative on the home and wish we heeded him, but where in a rush buying remote. At least we got the best neighbors ever.

Where I wish I could pressure legally is just overpaying, small town area, different groups knew everyone by name. Coincidentally appraiser comes in and evaluated it 2k above purchase price well above comps and bank accepted it. Knowing the area better 400k property really shoulda been closer to 350, maybe lower with some of the house bullshit but at least it's mostly just shitty trim paint and carpet, biggest issue just being the converted garage which is cracking tile directly on slab and no room to do a normal floor without cutting out and raising the side door.

But my shop is nice at least
 

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Well, we spoke with one last lawyer earlier this week. Nobody will take the case without at least a $10k retainer and the potential to pay upwards of $75k to search for the previous owners, depose witness testimony, and serve papers to multiple parties, not counting legal work.

We got the assessment from the structural engineer after excising the beam supporting the roof we suspected was sagging...
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So, the partion beam in this screenshot (on the right) has the primary 16 ft beam anchored with just what you see on the bottom, a half joist hanger.
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Here's the opposite end of the beam, sitting on a shiv of three wood blocks and a single brick. The beam is twisted due to age so its compromised on this side heavily. The owners apparently wrapped it with that pine, then drywalled over it to make it look flush.
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The 'beam' the half joist is anchored against? Is actually two slices of wood with drywall in between, and screwed together. So the beam is sagging because the weight is pulling that inner piece of wood 'apart' and its only a matter of time before it fully gives. The engineer basically said we have to demo the entire 300sq ft side of the house. The rest of the addition was built with about $1000 of wood from Home Depot because the wood/siding had all the original stickers and stamps on it showing the date and UPCs they were that clean. All the trim outside we removed was fresh, and painted over, and the prior owners effed up and left the paint cans buried in a pile in the corner of the garage with their prior contract and dated for March 6th. So, they knew what was up.

The drainage in the backyard and grading is going to be around $7k. The roof needs fully replaced since its cracking and the inspector said it was well-maintained (its not) -- that's going to be around $22k. The insulation is molded and compromised throughout the home, and all the fan exhausts were venting into the attic...the HVAC needs its drainage fixed because there was no routine maintence done when the new unit was installed in 2024 so we had the hallways flooded. The rest of the house is compromised by moisture and mold, since the renovations that were done used the wrong gypsum, I think it was Duraline? And its all disintegrated, molded, and just gutted. And we still have to update the electrical. Not to mention, building a new 300sq foot addition, plus all the drywalls and remediation. Costs are estimated around $180k conservatively to get the house in shape, which I can't afford.

So first time home buyer, and not even 50 days into the purchase and I have to file for bankruptcy because I cannot get anyone, or afford anyone, to sue despite the forensic engineer, clear evidence of fraud and concealment, and malpractice by our realtor for not doing their diligence along with the inspector. What a lovely year. The lawyer I spoke with said bankruptcy would potentially be the only way to save the home and by presenting that in front of a judge, the courts would be compelled to put the case to trial to understand how all this happened and possibly assist. But, its a long shot, a very long shot. I have about 20 days to decide since I lose the home insurance on July 31st and we can't afford the replacement insurance the mortage company is going to tack on.
 
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Not directly home build related but we had a 4th of July celebration out in the new neighborhood where the house is being built. Everyone comes out, kids set up little tables selling lemonade, homemade cookies, bracelets, whatever. Then at 9pm they started the fireworks. $6,600 worth I was told. Guess that's where the HOA fees are going! The whole show took 30 minutes exactly.

It was really great though. Kids were just wandering around playing with all the other kids. We had our tent setup. Met neighbors and talked about who had built when and history of the place.

Took a few pictures to send out to the organizers. I was going to take some video of the actual fireworks but by that point it was pitch black out there (there are no street lights or anything) and I didn't want to manage the drone plus 3 kids while explosions were happening.

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The Fireworks arranged at the other end of the field

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Picture of the south facing view of neighborhood. I got some good pictures to make a panoramic from about 500 feet.

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This is a west'ish view.

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Only real build update is that blocking is about 40% complete. Went by this morning and took some shots b/c we didn't have time yesterday with the party going on. Didn't take many great pictures b/c it isn't finished and I was just testing out how to import to do a 3D view of it.

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$6,000 worth of fireworks, so 30 seconds worth? Just kidding.
You know I really don’t have a reference for cost of fireworks and display. It was almost exactly 30 minutes though because we all kept looking at each other wondering if it was ever ending. My only feedback to them would be that 15 minutes is probably enough. Plus we were close enough that everyone was getting pelted with shrapnel.

I was told they were purchased through a local anesthesiologist who runs a fireworks business on the side.
 

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Not directly home build related but we had a 4th of July celebration out in the new neighborhood where the house is being built. Everyone comes out, kids set up little tables selling lemonade, homemade cookies, bracelets, whatever. Then at 9pm they started the fireworks. $6,600 worth I was told. Guess that's where the HOA fees are going! The whole show took 30 minutes exactly.

It was really great though. Kids were just wandering around playing with all the other kids. We had our tent setup. Met neighbors and talked about who had built when and history of the place.

Took a few pictures to send out to the organizers. I was going to take some video of the actual fireworks but by that point it was pitch black out there (there are no street lights or anything) and I didn't want to manage the drone plus 3 kids while explosions were happening.

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The Fireworks arranged at the other end of the field

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Picture of the south facing view of neighborhood. I got some good pictures to make a panoramic from about 500 feet.

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This is a west'ish view.

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Only real build update is that blocking is about 40% complete. Went by this morning and took some shots b/c we didn't have time yesterday with the party going on. Didn't take many great pictures b/c it isn't finished and I was just testing out how to import to do a 3D view of it.

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Beautiful views man, congrats on the spot. Sounds like it's going to be great.
 
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You know I really don’t have a reference for cost of fireworks and display. It was almost exactly 30 minutes though because we all kept looking at each other wondering if it was ever ending. My only feedback to them would be that 15 minutes is probably enough. Plus we were close enough that everyone was getting pelted with shrapnel.

I was told they were purchased through a local anesthesiologist who runs a fireworks business on the side.
Not that this is really the thread for this type of warning, but my sister-in-law's brother lost his eye working a fireworks show maybe 15 years ago. Granted, he was one of the ones setting them off and it was an accident, so not quite the same, but shit can be dangerous even if you know what you're doing.
 
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Well, we spoke with one last lawyer earlier this week. Nobody will take the case without at least a $10k retainer and the potential to pay upwards of $75k to search for the previous owners, depose witness testimony, and serve papers to multiple parties, not counting legal work.

We got the assessment from the structural engineer after excising the beam supporting the roof we suspected was sagging...
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So, the partion beam in this screenshot (on the right) has the primary 16 ft beam anchored with just what you see on the bottom, a half joist hanger.
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Here's the opposite end of the beam, sitting on a shiv of three wood blocks and a single brick. The beam is twisted due to age so its compromised on this side heavily. The owners apparently wrapped it with that pine, then drywalled over it to make it look flush.
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The 'beam' the half joist is anchored against? Is actually two slices of wood with drywall in between, and screwed together. So the beam is sagging because the weight is pulling that inner piece of wood 'apart' and its only a matter of time before it fully gives. The engineer basically said we have to demo the entire 300sq ft side of the house. The rest of the addition was built with about $1000 of wood from Home Depot because the wood/siding had all the original stickers and stamps on it showing the date and UPCs they were that clean. All the trim outside we removed was fresh, and painted over, and the prior owners effed up and left the paint cans buried in a pile in the corner of the garage with their prior contract and dated for March 6th. So, they knew what was up.

The drainage in the backyard and grading is going to be around $7k. The roof needs fully replaced since its cracking and the inspector said it was well-maintained (its not) -- that's going to be around $22k. The insulation is molded and compromised throughout the home, and all the fan exhausts were venting into the attic...the HVAC needs its drainage fixed because there was no routine maintence done when the new unit was installed in 2024 so we had the hallways flooded. The rest of the house is compromised by moisture and mold, since the renovations that were done used the wrong gypsum, I think it was Duraline? And its all disintegrated, molded, and just gutted. And we still have to update the electrical. Not to mention, building a new 300sq foot addition, plus all the drywalls and remediation. Costs are estimated around $180k conservatively to get the house in shape, which I can't afford.

So first time home buyer, and not even 50 days into the purchase and I have to file for bankruptcy because I cannot get anyone, or afford anyone, to sue despite the forensic engineer, clear evidence of fraud and concealment, and malpractice by our realtor for not doing their diligence along with the inspector. What a lovely year. The lawyer I spoke with said bankruptcy would potentially be the only way to save the home and by presenting that in front of a judge, the courts would be compelled to put the case to trial to understand how all this happened and possibly assist. But, its a long shot, a very long shot. I have about 20 days to decide since I lose the home insurance on July 31st and we can't afford the replacement insurance the mortage company is going to tack on.

Dude that would suck if on top of it all, someone burned it down in the next 20 days
 

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Not that this is really the thread for this type of warning, but my sister-in-law's brother lost his eye working a fireworks show maybe 15 years ago. Granted, he was one of the ones setting them off and it was an accident, so not quite the same, but shit can be dangerous even if you know what you're doing.
Yeah there was one or two misfires that exploded right on the ground and you could tell a chain reaction or two happened. If you can see from the aerial they were set up decently spread out (note: I have no idea how far decent is for fireworks). Our home builder is actually the guy that sets the whole thing up and runs that part, he was telling me about it last night. They do them all by hand too. I asked about automation or remote ignition and he said they have 4 runners going down the line lighting them. The timing is all planned by the anesthesiologist guy, but it sounds extremely high risk. Our first concern was wtf do we do when our GC is exploded???

The County has fire and EMS on hand, the Fire truck is the white one in the grass in the aerial view. Once we get moved in maybe I’ll try to get on the firework committee and recommend some upgrades. It is only a matter of time. They were shooting some chest reverberating cannons.
 

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I've only sold one house before, and that's what we did. I regret it because we spent a ton of money to do so (we replaced the roof, carpet, repainted, landscaping...basically fixed all the shit I should've fixed for us while we lived there). At the same time, we only had one offer with it on the market for a month. So did it make a difference? Who knows. My wife said we should've just put in allowances for things, but then I wonder if anyone would've been interested at all?

The sad part is just yesterday we were talking and I realized we'd lived here almost 5 years now, and our house on California for 6. That house felt like our home in every way. This one doesn't at all. We hated things about that house too, for sure, but this one just feels...off.

From what I've seen and heard, with the way the housing market is today, the only ways you sell today is by doing all that extra work to assure the house is top tier, or you sell for a lot less than market and put in allowances. I'm sure we have some realtors, and other experts here but that's what I've seen happen. So, TL;DR, you did the right thing.