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wanand

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Depends on your level of content really, you need feeder 6 stars anyway at a later level so there is no real harm in 6 staring any hero. Having said that you don't want waste any key heroes of which you have none listed there and 6 star starlight help quite a lot in early pve side of thing thanks to the complete heal after every enemy death. She can solo up to level 60 on aspen dungoen.

tl:dr version. Go for it
 

muggzwon

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Was stuck on 8-5 for the longest time, some levels on monster and that 6* Starlight got me quite far - for sure think it's worth it to sit on everything now for events as I've started to hit level requirements for progress again and 191 seems like quite the wall in tower.
 

AladainAF

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I'd recommend harvest + vitality for the first two things on your island to speed up progress in future.
 

muggzwon

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I think I can manage to get together 6400 gems for the 20k dust and Demon Hunter, would that be a better investment than the 2 cheaper boxes with gear, orbs and big casino spins?
 

Ritley

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I’m waiting to see how much I end up with. DH is pretty good, but 6400 gems is pretty steep for DH and dust. I got the first one because it seemed like a no brainer at 500 gems, going to wait and see what I have at the end, but I’d like to get all except the top one.

And yeah, harvest and vitality is what I went with.
 
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muggzwon

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I'm just 750 altar stones from 2nd iceblink and 2 4 star kristian from then making him 6 star, probably better than DH that isn't immediatly 6 starable?
 

AladainAF

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6400 gems is very steep. I personally bought every other box BUT that one, only because I have DH all over the place, and the gear is always a hold up. I think the gear is a nice boost when you are relatively new, it will carry you a long way.

To this day, I still roll with 5 and 4 star orange gear.
 

Onigen

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For a new'ish player with no 6-stars yet, do you reckon it's worth saving for the 8k box to get the 25k guild coins (it would would net a Queen and perhaps key 4/5 stars for fusions) or get the Demon Hunter-box? I mean how would you rate the boxes in necessity for newbies. Got a full 5*star rainbow team currently and struggling with Gerke @ 8-5 on campaign.
 

Ritley

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Quest 5* isn’t going to help, she is pretty bad until higher star level. Ormus is a much better 5* from the guild shop. DH is similarly bad at 5*.

The gear would probably be the biggest immediate gain for you, but long term it might be the guild coins and artifact.
 
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wanand

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DH will help in a PVP area only , PVE he damage is not that great I have got him at 8 star now and only use him on PVP. Both Guild boss and Friends list bosses, he does the lower damage then my 6 stars despite having better equipment. His ability does have some use in certain tower levels just his base damage is not that good

For PVP stick with him a speed artifact and level it up as much as you can. His silence will turn a fight against higher powered teams
 
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AladainAF

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For a new'ish player with no 6-stars yet, do you reckon it's worth saving for the 8k box to get the 25k guild coins (it would would net a Queen and perhaps key 4/5 stars for fusions) or get the Demon Hunter-box? I mean how would you rate the boxes in necessity for newbies. Got a full 5*star rainbow team currently and struggling with Gerke @ 8-5 on campaign.

I would suggest not buying anything from the guild store except guild tech. I know you want to. But I really cannot recommend anything from the guild store. My biggest regret is ever buying anything from there. It's all about Guild Tech. That and monster aura will make an epic difference on your team.

- The 500 gem box is a no brainer. The 5 heroic scrolls alone are a good deal. The pet mats are a bonus.
- I personally find the 2000 box worth it because of the gear. That gear will last you a very long time. The super casino chips are worthless (I mean they are OK but I don't consider them in the cost of the box - you're paying for the gear, not the chips)
- The 3600 box is also not a bad deal. The absolute cheapest you can get prophet orbs normally is 400 each from the vendor in aspen when you buy 5 of them iirc. So 8 of them is 3000 gems. The gear at this point is just 600 gems. But like the casino chips, you're really paying for the gear here. You just have to ask yourself if 8 orbs is worth it. I personally found it a good deal.
- The 6400 box is a bad deal, I think for almost anyone. DH is a good hero, esp for PvP (As Wanand said, not so much PvE). While 20K dust is nice, it's largely worthless (20k dust is enough to do -1- celestial gem upgrade). If this was an Asmodal or Das Moge (L/D) I might buy it, but for Demon Hunter? Nah. She's already common enough.
- The 8000 box is a "decent" deal in my opinion, but ONLY for old players. Not really for new players. The damage reduction artifact is SWEET (Maxed it's 30% reduce damage and 14% hp) but as a new player, it's going to take you a long time to max it. You need 5760 points per rank to max it and it maxes at 6 ranks, so about 34,500 points to max. The Barea skin is there to "coax" you to buy it. I wouldn't. You'll earn it over time. Barea is a decent hero, but you likely don't have him, and you don't want to use the skin until he's 10 star anyway. As for the guild coins, 25k isn't bad, but it's not worth that many gems. You are much better off being in a guild with a maxed out mill, and spending gems on order upgrades to 3/4 star for more guild coins that way IMO.

Edit: Also the black card is TOTALLY worth it, though if you're really low level maybe not so much.

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Onigen

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Bought the lowest 3 event chests, no new heroes but pretty close to 6-staring several atm. The items made Sigmund an absolute beast, breezed thru maybe 10 new levels on the tower and finally killed that Gerke on campaign (even without lucky CC). I do have the black card and even at supporter lvl 4 it's a nice bonus every day. Also got 3k gems left and would have the 6.4k (maybe even 8k if lucky with achievements/buy some) for one last chest before the event is done but guess I should just save em for future events. The team I'm using right now is Sigmund, DSlayer, Norma, Kamath, DFanella, Fegan/Disciple. Is any of those shitty enough to drop the rainbow-bonus for? Replacement 5* might include Iceblink, Balrog, Skerei, Faceless, Blood Blade.

The game assigned me to a new server when I started playing so the guild I'm is lvl 10 (highest on server is 11) and the mill is only lvl 3 so guild coin gains are kinda low all across the board.
 
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AladainAF

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I understand, focus on guild tech. That will give you a monster advantage, but try to spread it out until you get the big point gains.

Long term, you will keep Sigmund. He's a great hero. Dragon Slayer is meh, Norma cannot be 10 stared, Kamath is too new to know, Dark Fanelle/Fegan/Disciple cannot be 6 stared. For a new player, though, you're doing fine. Careful spending too much. It's always possible the new server wont pan out and if you're a high vip heavy spender you're stuck. They havent ruled out server moves, though. It's bound to happen someday. But we feel bad, like theres this one really great player on S20, full of a bunch of scrubs. lol.
 

Onigen

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Thanks for all the advice everybody. My server seems to be full of high-spending koreans by the look of leaderboards of various things. Kamath and Fanella make a good combo atm since they both petrify and Kamath gets a dmg-bonus on petrified targets, he's also a little tankier ranger with his t5 skill (dmg redu). Also hit a stupid wall in the campaign, my account level. What a silly arbitrary hindrance on progression, it doesn't even make you want to spend gems/money like actual harder enemies might. Guess I'll idle in place for a day or two so I can continue.
 

AladainAF

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Thanks for all the advice everybody. My server seems to be full of high-spending koreans by the look of leaderboards of various things. Kamath and Fanella make a good combo atm since they both petrify and Kamath gets a dmg-bonus on petrified targets, he's also a little tankier ranger with his t5 skill (dmg redu). Also hit a stupid wall in the campaign, my account level. What a silly arbitrary hindrance on progression, it doesn't even make you want to spend gems/money like actual harder enemies might. Guess I'll idle in place for a day or two so I can continue.

Yep, get used to it, forever. Thankfully, it's better than it used to be. But the gate is kinda dumb.

Well, until 42-5. There's no where to go after that.
 

muggzwon

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I'm unsure how to best invest in guild tech, I've been getting the skill dmg to 10 for most specs and some extra hp for tanks but best route forward is not obvious to me. With the changes made some weeks back is it still worth going for the top tiered node and 10 it?
 

wanand

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That is what I am doing personally, 10 in all the previous trees then max out the top one, it is not cheap but gives 2 stats rather then the 1. Guild tech is a good example of not being in a top guild can help a bit, I alsways finish in the top 2 in my guild on each guild boss so get a nice 7k stones each time the boss dies if I joined the higher guilds on my server which I could easily do I know I won't even make the top 10 and lose out on a lot of stones each week, and hinder my progession long term
 

Ritley

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That is what I am doing personally, 10 in all the previous trees then max out the top one, it is not cheap but gives 2 stats rather then the 1. Guild tech is a good example of not being in a top guild can help a bit, I alsways finish in the top 2 in my guild on each guild boss so get a nice 7k stones each time the boss dies if I joined the higher guilds on my server which I could easily do I know I won't even make the top 10 and lose out on a lot of stones each week, and hinder my progession long term
Honestly, that difference would probably be bridged by having a higher level Mill during that time.