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Not really because most likely those charges are already fixed rates. At least mortgages, car loans etc. the revolving debt which is variable would be impacted.
Any new borrowing during the quarter in which you didn't lower rates....
 
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Any new borrowing during the quarter in which you didn't lower rates....
Fair point. There is just no way to quantify it. With government debt, we can know what bonds are maturing and the previous coupon rates and be able to make the calculation.
 

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I could be smoking crack but the interest on the debt is only one portion of how much "we" would save. All consumer borrow is basically pegged to that rate as well, isn't it? So you'd have to calculate how much 300+ million people will save in finance charges?

I gotta quote that indian guru here.. "but the people are retarded".

Yes, to your point there would also be savings on other kinds of debt, but what does the average consoomer and government official do when they see that they're saving some money? Diligently continue to save, and use that opportunity to pay down their debt and improve their position?

Nah, rates are low brah! Let's take on some more debt and make the same stupid financial decisions that got us here in the first place.

I'm not a fan of how Powell handled things in the past, but now I see the fed as an entity that is protecting the retarded people from their own retardation at this point.

If I were Powell, I'd hike rates today. Hiking rates = elimination of bullshit programs, more caution when proposing new spending, and overall reduction of fluff in both public and private sectors. Too many jobs out there that add no value which are contributing to inflation, this would gut a lot of DEI and middle management and bring our country somewhat back to normalcy, while reducing costs for the consumer. IMO
 
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If I were Powell, I'd hike rates today. Hiking rates = elimination of bullshit programs, more caution when proposing new spending, and overall reduction of fluff in both public and private sectors. Too many jobs out there that add no value which are contributing to inflation, this would gut a lot of DEI and middle management and bring our country somewhat back to normalcy, while reducing costs for the consumer. IMO
All of this and there's very little evidence that cutting rates "stimulates the economy" anyways. Japan's "Lost Decade" being one of the biggest glaring examples.
 

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I gotta quote that indian guru here.. "but the people are retarded".

Yes, to your point there would also be savings on other kinds of debt, but what does the average consoomer and government official do when they see that they're saving some money? Diligently continue to save, and use that opportunity to pay down their debt and improve their position?

Nah, rates are low brah! Let's take on some more debt and make the same stupid financial decisions that got us here in the first place.

I'm not a fan of how Powell handled things in the past, but now I see the fed as an entity that is protecting the retarded people from their own retardation at this point.

If I were Powell, I'd hike rates today. Hiking rates = elimination of bullshit programs, more caution when proposing new spending, and overall reduction of fluff in both public and private sectors. Too many jobs out there that add no value which are contributing to inflation, this would gut a lot of DEI and middle management and bring our country somewhat back to normalcy, while reducing costs for the consumer. IMO
When the government pays higher interest rates on borrowing, that also causes inflation as it creates money to pay it.
 

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As I claimed in the politics thread, deporting illegals would be better for the country and the economy rather than reducing rates. Especially to save a measly $4.25 billion per year. Yea, I'm definitely siding with Powell on this one..
They could also refinance existing high interest debt. Pretty sure the government can buy them back in the open market.
 

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lol, here we go again with a completely fear based drop due to the imaginary tariff date. I'll wait this one out and pick up a bunch of calls in a few days(maybe 1-2 weeks) when the panic stops.

Last time it was about 1 month of free-fall until it basically went back to the old levels in no time.
 
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Most likely a combo of that and the abysmal July jobs report and June/May revisions. Not sure anyone takes his tariffs seriously at this point, as they could be walked back after his afternoon nap.
 
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Greatest economy of any president's first 6 months in perhaps the history of ever of all-time throughout history. YUGE!
 

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Yea, today’s drop is a reaction on the jobs data and a lesser extent the tariffs. A current miss with a massive -250k revision to prior is significant.

If you want confirmation on this price action, just look at the collapse in yields and US dollar after that data hit.
 
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Yeah, it was one of those revisions that is so extreme it even has some pretty conservative true believers asking if the BLS has an honest grip to really measure the numbers.....

And yeah DXY took a punch in the taco today relative the last week and a half of good upward movement.
 
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