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Gravel

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I don't know how your BLS measures job +/-, but if it's anything similar to how the ONS does it, it's no wonder the numbers are always crooked.

The ONS does it by phoning a limited number of businesses and asking them what's the price of these certain X items, as opposed to anything digital/mass data.

It's basically the same of how they do political polling - call up registered voters and ask them, which obviously skews it as only a certain subset of people register, and then a smaller set actually pick up the phone.
It's 2025. You expect the government to have some sort of system in place that utilizes technology? Nope they're going to call up places on a landline god damnit.
 
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dragonbr

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It's 2025. You expect the government to have some sort of system in place that utilizes technology? Nope they're going to call up places on a landline god damnit.
I do not disagree with your assertion in anyway, but the issue is there's no side that would want to fix this shit process due to the initial reporting mostly favoring the party in power. Revisions usually get minimal reporting in comparison to the initial reporting outside of major outliers like this and August 2024.
 

Sanrith Descartes

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In before we find out Don Jr and Barron bought a shitload of the stock before the tweet.

 
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Sanrith Descartes

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PLTR reports its first $1b quarter. Also beat estimates. Train is unstoppable.
 
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tugofpeace

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UPST earnings today 8/5.

This thing touched $96 this year, dropped down to $32, and then came all the way back to ~$85 pre-earnings tomorrow. $400 stock during the pandemic.

If this is the quarter where it breaks $100.. oh lord the shorts are gonna burn.
 

Khane

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Palantir? What's Palantir?

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tugofpeace

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Question regarding wash sale.

Let's say you have 200 shares of a stock, at $75 and $25 cost basis. Overall cost basis is $50.

You sell all 200 shares for $60.

If you repurchase shares within 30 days, that's a wash sale, right? Since you sold the 100 $75 shares at a loss?
 

Blazin

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Question regarding wash sale.

Let's say you have 200 shares of a stock, at $75 and $25 cost basis. Overall cost basis is $50.

You sell all 200 shares for $60.

If you repurchase shares within 30 days, that's a wash sale, right? Since you sold the 100 $75 shares at a loss?
You could specify which lot you sold, if you sold the $25 then it wouldn't be a loss but a gain. The simple way to think about it is you cant realize a loss then simply repurchase the shares in a short time frame
 

tugofpeace

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You could specify which lot you sold, if you sold the $25 then it wouldn't be a loss but a gain. The simple way to think about it is you cant realize a loss then simply repurchase the shares in a short time frame

Not sure I understand - yes, since the combined cost basis is $50 and I'm selling at $60, the overall 200 shares I sell are at a gain.

However, if I repurchase some shares shortly after, isn't it a wash sale because while the $25 shares were sold at profit, the $75 shares were sold at loss?
 

Blazin

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That depends on the accounting method used, you can specify lots, you can LIFO , FIFO or avg cost. However, the IRS doesn't like you changing. Your broker should have a sections to address this
 

tugofpeace

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That depends on the accounting method used, you can specify lots, you can LIFO , FIFO or avg cost. However, the IRS doesn't like you changing. Your broker should have a sections to address this

I'm not sure if you're misunderstanding or what.. there are two lots.

100 shares @ $75
100 shares @ $25

Both lots are sold at $60.

$25 shares see a $35 profit
$75 shares see a $15 loss

Yes, overall gain will be positive ($50 total cost basis sold at $60 = $10 profit for 200 shares)

However the $75 shares were sold at a $15 loss. If shares of that ticker are repurchased within 30 days, that is a wash sale, right? Regardless of LIFO, FIFO, avg cost, etc.