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Cad

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Blazin said:
I sure wouldn't be happy. A disenfranchised base is a dangerous thing, they might just rightfully so destroy your wealth with a vote and a stroke of a pen . This isn't the thread for it but wealth gaps are the stew in which communists are born. A strengthening middle class breeds free market capitalism. Inflation is theft by the wealthy from the labor class.

We should all be rooting for fiscal discipline and adherence to 2% long run inflation targets even if it causes short term pain to the capital class.
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Since I can't control the outcome either way, I'll go ahead and root for the outcome that benefits me and my family personally. Just as they would be rooting for the outcome that benefits them personally (greater lower/middle class wealth.)

I'd also root for financial discipline and adherence to 2% long run inflation targets, but they aren't going to do that, so whats the point?
 
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Cad said:
I'll worry about the plebs when they start worrying about me. I can't take responsibility for society on my shoulders.
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That's true, what I'm saying is that it is in your interest, in that your interest extend beyond the dollar value of your Net Worth
 
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Not the thread for discourse on socio economic issues, it is tangentially related but we also know it will become less and less about our investments the more we talk about it.

I agree with Cad that the Fed maintaining discipline would be a good idea, but it also seems unlikely at this juncture and none of us control that outcome we will just have to play the cards we are dealt.
 
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Got out of MSTR a couple days ago and realized my $50k loss. Now where should I safe haven this other $50k?
 
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Got out of MSTR a couple days ago and realized my $50k loss. Now where should I safe haven this other $50k?
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Hope this thread didn't shake you out. MSTR may be a bad investment, but its not going to $0 anytime soon. If you really realized a 50% loss thats pretty brutal and honestly maybe you should just sit in a MM account and take some interest while you lick your wounds. I'm only saying that because I have to imagine that was an emotional decision and you'd probably be best served sitting on your hands until you feel a bit more comfortable making risk decisions... which all investments obviously are.

EDIT: I'm exposed to MSTR and STRC myself by the way so I'm not entirely ignorant to where you're at. I can share some arguments as to why MSTR is going to be fine if you really want me to but maybe not worth it at this point.
 
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Cad said:
I would be extremely happy if this guy is right.
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On the one hand, as an asset owner, I absolutely agree.

On the other, I'm not super excited about an economy where everyone is fucking dying out there because of how bad it is, and I'm sitting on my throne like some rich asshole. I don't think that system is sustainable.
 
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Hope this thread didn't shake you out. MSTR may be a bad investment, but its not going to $0 anytime soon. If you really realized a 50% loss thats pretty brutal and honestly maybe you should just sit in a MM account and take some interest while you lick your wounds. I'm only saying that because I have to imagine that was an emotional decision and you'd probably be best served sitting on your hands until you feel a bit more comfortable making risk decisions... which all investments obviously are.

EDIT: I'm exposed to MSTR and STRC myself by the way so I'm not entirely ignorant to where you're at. I can share some arguments as to why MSTR is going to be fine if you really want me to but maybe not worth it at this point.
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I've doubled my account balance in the last couple of years, so not as painful as you think.

MSTR is already down another 10% since I sold. So, def didn't sell the bottom. I think it has a ways to go and there's more pain in the water.
 
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I just hate the looming economic uncertainty and I don't know about any possible social revolutions but I do know that the market can't sustain high unemployment and high inflation (stagflation) for very long.

I don't see how we maintain the upward trajectory as if we are some dynastic monarchy from the middle ages. The market is eventually going to correct if people stop spending money on anything and everything except the bare essentials because they can't find work or don't feel secure in their jobs.
 
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Cad

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Am I on crack or was the market up ~2% an hour ago and now is down 0.33%? This volatility seems high.
 
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Oof AMD was up 5% after hours yesterday now down almost 5.

Fucking lol this blurb

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One of those times market is playing out like I thought it might, Pop on NVDA back into the sell zone and what do you know, the sellers are still there. Bulls just need sometime to accept this corrective phase.

They rally it again this afternoon and I'd be surprised. It's all probabilities so certainly can happen I"m just not seeing it as the most likely case. We need to test 10/10 low that seems the more likely path to me.


Op Ex tomorrow so it's harder for the market to move from this range until next week. The Op Ex frees up money to reposition. So current range is 10/10 low to the $668-$672 sell zone as the high
 
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The elites will pull the UBI card once it gets bad enough. That's the "Trump card" they're saving in their back pocket for when AI decimates enough jobs. It has the added bonus of making you even MORE reliant on the government and then they can enact all kinds of shit they want you to do in order to keep on the dole. Social credit scores, spying on your neighbors, etc. etc.

Let them eat cake indeed.
 
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