IT/Software career thread: Invert binary trees for dollars.

Khane

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Thinking about this a little today. I realized that the interview process today for Mid-Senior+ is the same as it was for entry level now. Entry level tech jobs had grueling interviews. The one I did for GM as an entry level developer was 4 interviews, 2 of which were white boarding. While it is difficult to get the job it is quite easy to keep the job. Especially in larger organizations.

When I got my current role as a "mid level" after 6 years at GM it was a 3 interview process and the questions about technical stuff were relatively deep but they required no whiteboard coding. More like, "walk us through how you would approach this common issue for the role and tell us why you would do X or Y." Every interview I had from 2019-2024 or so was like this. This past year or so its full on 5-7 stage process with whiteboarding, leetcode, take home assignments, aggressive filtering, everything. If anything it makes me not want to get a different job that badly because that shit straight sucks to do.

The old format was enjoyable.

Supply and demand, if a company is willing to actually hire an American they have so many candidates vying for the position they can basically require anything they want and people will jump through all the hoops.

Essentially the opposite of how it was for those of us established in the field circa 2015.
 
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TomServo

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Thinking about this a little today. I realized that the interview process today for Mid-Senior+ is the same as it was for entry level now. Entry level tech jobs had grueling interviews. The one I did for GM as an entry level developer was 4 interviews, 2 of which were white boarding. While it is difficult to get the job it is quite easy to keep the job. Especially in larger organizations.

When I got my current role as a "mid level" after 6 years at GM it was a 3 interview process and the questions about technical stuff were relatively deep but they required no whiteboard coding. More like, "walk us through how you would approach this common issue for the role and tell us why you would do X or Y." Every interview I had from 2019-2024 or so was like this. This past year or so its full on 5-7 stage process with whiteboarding, leetcode, take home assignments, aggressive filtering, everything. If anything it makes me not want to get a different job that badly because that shit straight sucks to do.

The old format was enjoyable.
It fucking sucks. I am working two seperate outside business things with wife to get the fuck out in the next 5 years
 
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TJT

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And to really rub it in the Indian hires only have 2 interviews. The ones that require me to do the first stage anyway.
 
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Neranja

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That's the pattern: Blue collar jobs get automated > "adapt or die." White collar spreadsheet work gets automated > "well, those weren't the important ones." Next up: "Sure, AI writes code, but that's not TRUE TECH! Real engineers think."
I'd like to point out something here: The "adapt or die" mentality has always been the case for IT jobs. Every new year comes a new technology, a new framework, a new operating system, a new language, a new way of doing things. We went from big central computers with stupid remote access terminals to personal computers, and then back to cloud computing an centralized computing, in like 25 years.

"Adapt or die" you say, like it's a bad thing. "Adapt or die" has been in the DNA of IT jobs since forever. And this is the reason you get no sympathy here, and why no one understands your argument.
 
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