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Hateyou
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I have a patent and wouldn’t put it on my resume. Anything I patent belongs to my company anyways, what’s the point really.
I did bring it up to my son’s 3rd grade class a couple years ago when I volunteered to help them with their “inventions” project. They were so impressed, like I was a genius. Then I showed them what I invented and they weren’t as impressed, which I knew would happen, but I brought it up to show them even simple ideas can be patentable and be worth $.
I did bring it up to my son’s 3rd grade class a couple years ago when I volunteered to help them with their “inventions” project. They were so impressed, like I was a genius. Then I showed them what I invented and they weren’t as impressed, which I knew would happen, but I brought it up to show them even simple ideas can be patentable and be worth $.
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Nobody (well most people) don't put down a bad reference. It's super common to call the places they have listed as their past employment and ask someone about them. Non corporate, and the person you call and ask about them is normally the owner. I hear all kind of stuff from "wich he still worked here" to "I fired him" and once "dod you know where he is so I can call the police he stole a bunch of shit".
My first bosss and also an investor in me had a number of patents from when he worked for Texas Instruments. He had moved on and he told me he didn't share that info with anyone, but if so motivated someone could find the info.
My first bosss and also an investor in me had a number of patents from when he worked for Texas Instruments. He had moved on and he told me he didn't share that info with anyone, but if so motivated someone could find the info.
Noodleface
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Based Patriot
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Unless the Government magical improves together with the Job market I am not going anywhere near
a job application.I am not really interested to work my butt off for some greedy suit for barely any money to afford shit.
Besides with those Taxes nah this shitty system will die with Gen Z call us lazy I call us not stupid enough to keep this shitty system alive.
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tugofpeace
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How do you guys gauge the level of employee retention when applying to new jobs? I have multiple offers, all in consulting. Problem is I don't want to pick one and then be worried about my job, but maybe that just comes with the territory nowadays..
One of the jobs offers $165k remote, another offers $157k remote, another offers $147k hybrid.
The $165k job used to be employee owned but was bought out by a PE firm, and online reviews say there's over hiring, layoffs, etc but it's all from locations different from the one I applied to.
The $157k job is heavy into government contracts but my role isn't involved with the government.
The $147k job seems pretty stable.
Then there's my old employer who has excellent stability and learning opportunities but they will likely lowball me to the $130k range (remote) or so.
In my experience engineers (non software) aren't laid off very frequently.. I'm just concerned that all these firms have timesheets and if there's not enough work to go around, it presents a problem.
One of the jobs offers $165k remote, another offers $157k remote, another offers $147k hybrid.
The $165k job used to be employee owned but was bought out by a PE firm, and online reviews say there's over hiring, layoffs, etc but it's all from locations different from the one I applied to.
The $157k job is heavy into government contracts but my role isn't involved with the government.
The $147k job seems pretty stable.
Then there's my old employer who has excellent stability and learning opportunities but they will likely lowball me to the $130k range (remote) or so.
In my experience engineers (non software) aren't laid off very frequently.. I'm just concerned that all these firms have timesheets and if there's not enough work to go around, it presents a problem.
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Normally I will know at least some of the recent hitory of a company. But if I don't I ask when their last lay off was and what for. From what I've been told a loty of people never ask. Some companies get caught up in other stuff like 2008 or whatever. There are some companies that will man up and man down in the shop, meaning they lay off and hire often. Unless the economy is in a total metdown in my line of work guys in the office normally don't get laid off because without them you can't even get bids together. Those that man up and man down normally are shitty places to work, can't get qualified people and bitch and moan about shitty workers all the time.
I normally work for myself but the last full time job I was hired for the owner who at the time had owned the compnay almost 40 years he inherited when his dad died while he was in college. Anyway talking to him about going to work there he told me they had never laid off anyone and the only people he ever fired was someone that stole some. That's pretty rare. Of course that misses the people he made work a living hell and they quit.
I normally work for myself but the last full time job I was hired for the owner who at the time had owned the compnay almost 40 years he inherited when his dad died while he was in college. Anyway talking to him about going to work there he told me they had never laid off anyone and the only people he ever fired was someone that stole some. That's pretty rare. Of course that misses the people he made work a living hell and they quit.
Cutlery
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Man, it's really fucking bad out there. Been trying half assed for the last 6 months or so to see what's out there, and you just can't get anything anywhere. Gotten 2 phone screens and can't get past that.
I'm also a huge fan of the phone screen, "we're gonna kick you over to the hiring manager and then bring you into the facility" followed by a week of silence and then the reject. Look, I'm not mad I didn't get the job, but why the fuck are you wasting time with me if you're just hiring an internal, which is obviously what's going on? I hate it when we do that shit at my work "hey, we just wanna promote this guy"
"Gotta post it"
Fuckin why? Oh, equal opportunity? Well, we have a phrase we use in the politics thread and it's "lol, laws." Just don't waste my fucking time. Don't make me be the asshole that has to tell my boss I'm coming in late so I can sit on the phone with your retarded recruiter for half an hour and then not even get the privilege of actually talking to anyone in authority about the job. Just hire who you're gonna hire and send us all the "after careful consideration" email and be done with it.
Also, doubly hilarious when you find out that 2 of your buddies have the exact same story with the interview process at the exact same company. Operations aint that big of a world. We all talk. And we all talk about how your company ain't even worth an application. I'm sure that'll go fine for you.
I'm also a huge fan of the phone screen, "we're gonna kick you over to the hiring manager and then bring you into the facility" followed by a week of silence and then the reject. Look, I'm not mad I didn't get the job, but why the fuck are you wasting time with me if you're just hiring an internal, which is obviously what's going on? I hate it when we do that shit at my work "hey, we just wanna promote this guy"
"Gotta post it"
Fuckin why? Oh, equal opportunity? Well, we have a phrase we use in the politics thread and it's "lol, laws." Just don't waste my fucking time. Don't make me be the asshole that has to tell my boss I'm coming in late so I can sit on the phone with your retarded recruiter for half an hour and then not even get the privilege of actually talking to anyone in authority about the job. Just hire who you're gonna hire and send us all the "after careful consideration" email and be done with it.
Also, doubly hilarious when you find out that 2 of your buddies have the exact same story with the interview process at the exact same company. Operations aint that big of a world. We all talk. And we all talk about how your company ain't even worth an application. I'm sure that'll go fine for you.
Kobayashi
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Some companies have zero respect for your time. I had one company that actually had multiple phone screens with HR recruiters. Then, after getting through that bullshit and a couple of video interviews, they wanted to set up on-site interviews (at the same location) 3 different days. I'm not taking time off work 3 different days so I can maybe get this job.
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TJT
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Sadly ghosting is the absolute norm now. A decade ago ghosting just didn't happen. Maybe like 15 years ago I guess.
Cutlery
This will sound gay because it is. Use AI to tighten up your resume. Not for buzzwords but for concise phrasing and summarization of your experience. Once I did that I got a lot more responses.
Cutlery
This will sound gay because it is. Use AI to tighten up your resume. Not for buzzwords but for concise phrasing and summarization of your experience. Once I did that I got a lot more responses.- 1
Cutlery
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Sadly ghosting is the absolute norm now. A decade ago ghosting just didn't happen. Maybe like 15 years ago I guess.
Already did. It 100% passes ATS scanners now, it's phenomenal. It stopped all of the instant rejects
Now, I get 2 phone screens for 30 applications and both of them are "super excited" to pass on my "impressive background" to the hiring manager and then a week goes by and oops we gave it to someone else.
That's fine - but if you weren't gonna talk to me, then why waste my time?
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Cutlery
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Sorry for the double here, but what pisses me off in this is that I'm in operations leadership. My entire job is fixing broken processes and managing people.
If your process isn't streamlined and pisses people off unnecessarily, your process is broken. Fix your process and stop pissing people off and you get better results. That is 100% lost on most people, especially in recruiting.
If your director is a girlboss and she wants to promote her girlboss friend to manager so you two can girlboss together, that's fantastic. I'm happy for you. But don't fucking call me and pretend like I have a shot. Just send me the reject email and move on. Or don't - you can ghost me too, that's fine. But stop jerking people around with this fake shit.
If your process isn't streamlined and pisses people off unnecessarily, your process is broken. Fix your process and stop pissing people off and you get better results. That is 100% lost on most people, especially in recruiting.
If your director is a girlboss and she wants to promote her girlboss friend to manager so you two can girlboss together, that's fantastic. I'm happy for you. But don't fucking call me and pretend like I have a shot. Just send me the reject email and move on. Or don't - you can ghost me too, that's fine. But stop jerking people around with this fake shit.
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TJT
Mr. Poopybutthole
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For the new job I start on Monday I submitted a good amount of applications and rejected an easy high paying position I got offered. Only to have a recruiter reach out to me and get a job I am excited about.
So you ain't alone.
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Masakari
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HAH - I've had the displeasure of experiencing this recently when my boss (a feminist Swiftie) promoted an inexperienced Swiftie ahead of me as team lead. It's going to be a little difficult for her to maintain the custom VBA-based tools I created when I'm not around anymore. And mind you, the woman she promoted is a good 10 years younger than me and acted like she was the queen of the castle because she knows how to use a VLOOKUP. I was like "Oh yeah, you're really ahead of the curve here, you'll do great!
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