To be fair here, it's not that hard to believe the police department might not give the death of a black teenager the attention it deserved. We've seen hundreds of videos of police officers behaving terribly, and that's what's they do out in public. I don't blame the public for wanting to see this case go to court, but I do blame them for not accepting the verdict once it's been made, especially when they haven't been paying attention to the trial.
Except it doesn't, and we already went over that.
Strawman and mischaracterization. Gavinrad stated exactly what I stated many pages ago.
And you were proven wrong by...the Defense's forensic medical examiner, as has already been cited.
Wrong again. You were dismissed outright because your statements already conflict with the evidence and you have proven with your history of posts in this thread to make an unsupportable claim, and then double down on it again and again and again like you're doing now, derailing the thread into meaningless, twenty paragraph long rants by yourself about shit you clearly know nothing about.
I don't. Usually the very first line of your posts contain at least two to three mischaracterizations and outright already known to be false statements (like this one) which is why you are now discounted outright as a troll and a bad poster
Its already known you have several alt accounts from the askamod thread.
The problem with that pov is that you can apply it to anything. If police officers didn't carry guns, criminals would be less likely to die also. However, yes, I will concede the point that if Zimmerman hadn't had a gun, no one would have died from a gunshot. Also, if Trayvon hadn't turned around when he got home and confronted Zimmerman, no one would have died.
Are you saying you concede the point that if Zimmerman hadn't had a gun, no one would have died, or merely that is far more likely that no one would have died?
Nope. gav stated it was irrelevant whether or not Martin would have killed Zimmerman. I agree, you agree, but that's not what we were arguing about. Stop trying to change the subject to something that isn't about you being an idiot.
Wrong again, bitch. Medical examiner never proved Martin intended to kill Zimmerman.
My statements don't conflict with any evidence at all. You would know this if you read my posts.
QUESTION FOR MODS: is there a way to prove if someone has an alt account? If so, I'd like to get a bet going.
Sorry, if Zimmerman hadn't had a gun, no one would have died from a gunshot.
Khalid, you used non-offensive language to make a clear and logical point I can't argue with. We are on the same page here.
My only change is that I believe there was a possibly that Zimmerman could have died to Trayvon or even vice versa if the fight kept going on. Not having a gun does not guarantee that someone doesn't die. Do you disagree with that? Surely you don't think there is 0% chance that Zimmerman might have died if the fight had continued? If you disagree with this, why do you think Zimmerman should have been acquitted because of SD?
No, its not. Gavinrad summarized my position perfectly. You're just too fucking dumb to see that shit.
Disproven at 40 minutes into the second section of the medical examiner questioning on the stand, intent is irrelevant.
Yes, they do. The idea that the death of Martin is Zimmerman's fault for carrying a gun is, in fact, conflicting with the evidence.
Its already been shown that you gave yourself plusses to get to positive through other accounts and that you then began giving negs before you made a post on this forum.
He didn't need to generate one, he already has a few. Take a look at my profile. There's two of them. Exactly 5 posts. Seems pretty non coicidental. If they're real posters let them come in here and defend Tanoomba.
Pretty much the only way is IP checking and it's pretty easy to make sure you have different IPs for different accounts. You could easily have multiple accounts without being able to prove it if you really wanted to hide it.
Do you think him having a gun versus not significantly changes the chance that they both live through the encounter?
In reverse order of posting because I'm lazy.
Zimmerman not having a gun would have
Well I wasn't worried about which order you were concerned about, just whether or not you think Zimmerman possessing a gun or not affected the likelihood of both of them surviving versus not. Just a gut feeling on whatever percentage of each possibility you laid out would have of happening in the case of him not having a gun versus what did as a result of him having a gun, which was ending up with one of them dead. It's not a trick question, I didn't watch or pay any real attention to the trial or case, if your honest opinion is that someone likely would have died anyways, I'd like to hear that.
JOE ROCKETVISION also shows up under the IPs with Mire and Marmac and is on Mire's friend list.
yeah but for the same reason, crossing the street significantly increased trayvon and zimmermans chance of death with the encounter as well. there's a million things you do on a daily basis that increase your risk of dying, almost everything you do when you leave your house increases your risk of dying.
You may not be concerned about it, but the differences matter to me. I am a big believer in the principle of self-defense. If you start a physical confrontation with someone, they should be able to respond with deadly force if they believe that they might receive grievous harm or even death. You simply can't depend on the police being around to protect you. I believe this also has a deterrence effect on people starting fights based on silly reasons like "he was following me".
