Last Epoch
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Hit ctrl-z I think and it pulls all the loot back to the middle of the screen when you loot items.
Xexx
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Khane
Got something right about marriage
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Yea but... why? LE has an offline mode you'll be able to eventually hack with hero editor style tools to test anything you want in the actual game....
Brikker
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Here ya go, test any build offline:
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Hekotat
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Companies really need to figure out procedurally generated maps for games like this.
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D2 hit it about right where there were consistent thematic structures and set pieces, but randomized within that.
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I lose interest in most arpg once the game comes down to just a loot grind.
Every arpg that I can think of boils down to the same thing, and I don't think there is really a long term viability to keep it fresh for too long.
I think part of it is the mindset that games don't start until " end game ". MMOs are in the same boat. Blast as fast as you can through the actual game, and then complain there is nothing to do....the game was the something to do.
PoE - do maps to do more maps
D3 - Do rifts to do more rifts
Last Epoch - Do monos to do more monos.
Everything virtually stays the same except numbers. Whether you are doing 100k dmg, 1 mil dmg, 1 bil, 1 trillion dmg....you are still hitting the same keys, for the same skills, for the same loot but +1 gooder.
Every arpg that I can think of boils down to the same thing, and I don't think there is really a long term viability to keep it fresh for too long.
I think part of it is the mindset that games don't start until " end game ". MMOs are in the same boat. Blast as fast as you can through the actual game, and then complain there is nothing to do....the game was the something to do.
PoE - do maps to do more maps
D3 - Do rifts to do more rifts
Last Epoch - Do monos to do more monos.
Everything virtually stays the same except numbers. Whether you are doing 100k dmg, 1 mil dmg, 1 bil, 1 trillion dmg....you are still hitting the same keys, for the same skills, for the same loot but +1 gooder.
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I'm the opposite. The stories of ARPGs are generally totally forgettable. If there's a good moment to moment gameplay loop and character growth mechanics that will keep me interested for a long time. Forever? No. But more than lots of other game genres.
I agree about the stories. I can't think of a single arpg that I know the first thing about the story.
Other than loot, what is the growth mechanics in any other arpg? I'm not saying there may not be one, but I can't think of it.
By the time the campaign is over in any arpg that I know of, all of your skills and mechanics are known...and then it's just +1 more better for everything past that.
Lost Ark might meet that threshold, as they keep releasing new bosses that require more loot grind, but the rewards stay the same...just more +1 to your stats in some form or another.
Rerolling other classes can be interesting until you cap them out.
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A lot of builds in PoE come online post campaign. The concept of a league starter exists partially because your preferred build will not function without certain pieces of loot or a minimum amount of investment. They actually just made this "worse" as a handful of uniques got moved to their Uber version and div cards that dropped boss uniques can only drop from said bosses(there are still loopholes).
I think LE has this as well, but to a much lesser degree.
Accumulating skills, skill modifications, stats, and their interactions with each other and the gear you collect. That process can take many dozens of hours to complete or accumulate in-game resources for, and that assumes you have the knowledge of what to choose in the first place. The process of learning what is good, what isn't, and what you like is all part of the game as well.
