Shonuff
Mr. Poopybutthole
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OK, so I have a Grapple Truck I use in the business. Last year, the frame started cracking. We have days where we are picking up 3-5 tons of debris, there is a lot of wear and tear. My normal mechanic said he could fix it for $2,500, through welding.
So:
1- Last Summer, we had it welded for $2500, and it lasted a year.
2- This Summer it started cracking again, and he worked on it. Immediately after getting the truck back, it started cracking the same day we got it.
3- He worked on the truck two more times to try to fix it, and each time, it started cracking the same day it came out of the shop. After the third try at welding it, he told me he wasn't going to warranty it any more.
4- The weld consisted of putting a metal plate on that was 1/3 of an inch and about ten inches long on both sides. We had it looked at by four other mechanics that told me the reason why we were having problems with it was because it was welded (the frame needed to flex to support that type of moving weight, so it needed to be bolted on instead), and it wasn't thick or long enough.
5- I had someone else who fixed a competitor's Grapple truck the first time look at it (and it had zero problems afterwards). I paid him 5k, and he put a bar on both sides that was one inch thick and eight feet long. He didn't weld it, he bolted it so it could flex.
6- I've been told by numerous mechanics to not let the previous guy weld it anymore, because he wasn't using the correct fix, and that heating up the frame would weaken it. Too many times, if the frame was heated up, and my 50k truck would just fall apart and be unrepairable. So I gave him the opportunity to fix the problem three times, but I was running the risk of losing the entire truck due to his incompetence. Mind you, I'm still making payments on the truck.
7- Total lost productivity due to the mechanic's incompetence was $15,000. I lost 500 a day because he told me he could fix it, but he had it in the shop for almost two months. My guys had to move the debris by hand. Instead of being able to pick it up in five minutes, they had to move 2-3 tons of debris a day by hand. It cost them four to five hours a day more to do the same amount of work. And this took eight weeks, versus the new mechanic taking two weeks (and the fix has been permanent). So I wasted a lot of man hours trying to keep working.
Long story short, I didn't pay the mechanic for the first fix, because it didn't fix the problem. I don't think I should have to, given that he cost me 15k in lost productivity, charged me 5k over two repairs, and I still had to pay someone 5k to do the job he was unable to do.
In a court of law, what are the issues here? Maybe some of the more legally minded people can tell me, before I start paying my lawyer. I don't plan on suing him for damages, but he may try to sue me. What are my defenses?
So:
1- Last Summer, we had it welded for $2500, and it lasted a year.
2- This Summer it started cracking again, and he worked on it. Immediately after getting the truck back, it started cracking the same day we got it.
3- He worked on the truck two more times to try to fix it, and each time, it started cracking the same day it came out of the shop. After the third try at welding it, he told me he wasn't going to warranty it any more.
4- The weld consisted of putting a metal plate on that was 1/3 of an inch and about ten inches long on both sides. We had it looked at by four other mechanics that told me the reason why we were having problems with it was because it was welded (the frame needed to flex to support that type of moving weight, so it needed to be bolted on instead), and it wasn't thick or long enough.
5- I had someone else who fixed a competitor's Grapple truck the first time look at it (and it had zero problems afterwards). I paid him 5k, and he put a bar on both sides that was one inch thick and eight feet long. He didn't weld it, he bolted it so it could flex.
6- I've been told by numerous mechanics to not let the previous guy weld it anymore, because he wasn't using the correct fix, and that heating up the frame would weaken it. Too many times, if the frame was heated up, and my 50k truck would just fall apart and be unrepairable. So I gave him the opportunity to fix the problem three times, but I was running the risk of losing the entire truck due to his incompetence. Mind you, I'm still making payments on the truck.
7- Total lost productivity due to the mechanic's incompetence was $15,000. I lost 500 a day because he told me he could fix it, but he had it in the shop for almost two months. My guys had to move the debris by hand. Instead of being able to pick it up in five minutes, they had to move 2-3 tons of debris a day by hand. It cost them four to five hours a day more to do the same amount of work. And this took eight weeks, versus the new mechanic taking two weeks (and the fix has been permanent). So I wasted a lot of man hours trying to keep working.
Long story short, I didn't pay the mechanic for the first fix, because it didn't fix the problem. I don't think I should have to, given that he cost me 15k in lost productivity, charged me 5k over two repairs, and I still had to pay someone 5k to do the job he was unable to do.
In a court of law, what are the issues here? Maybe some of the more legally minded people can tell me, before I start paying my lawyer. I don't plan on suing him for damages, but he may try to sue me. What are my defenses?