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Malakriss

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Chaos dungeons don't have purple boss portals any more, so supports have the same chance to get an ember drop that inevitably has silver. Same disappointment on any role now.
 

Voldeth

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meh. The chore content is the #1 complaint I have seen for quitting the game. The chore content takes(took?) longer on a support. If they finally fixed that then good but late if the community won't continue playing supports.

IMO, It's not just "bignumbersmakehappy." Even traditional MMOS playing a DPS is 1 gear set/spec/play style where playing a tank/healer required another gear set/build to do any quest/solo content. It has always been more of a hassle for the player. LA was(is?) on a different level.

We're all seasoned MMO players here. Sure, there are less healers/tanks in MMOS but I've never experienced the extent that LA had from the get-go. Maybe they need to release a new support class every 4 months?

You're compounding two separate issues though. Yes, the number one reason (or high up there) people quit Lost Ark is because of chores. People don't like the daily grind. They've reduced this by making sweeping changes to Chaos Dungeons (no more portal rooms, mobs auto aggro, maps are smaller, Fate Embers drop) and lowering Guardian Raids to one a day. If you do not enjoy this gameplay, the reduction of it does not change the fact that you do not like it and will likely quit as a result. As others have said, it's now roughly the same thing regardless of the class you play with 30 seconds to a minute difference. Thus 'I quit because I hate the daily content" is still prevalent however "i quit because I hate the daily content and it takes longer on my support" is misinformed.
 
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Barellron

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Yeah, every class can do 2x Chaos in 5 minutes or less now, including supports. DPS spend considerably more time in Guardians on average because Matchmaking is full of scrubs and fresh lvl 50 [New Class]es, Party Finder groups generally ignore on-ilvl DPS applicants, and supports get in instantly without anyone even checking to see if they have gems equipped.

Again though this content amounts to 10 minutes of total play time per character every 1-3 days. If you compare the weekly raid commitment of a solo support vs solo DPS player, the support can get their raids done in less than the amount of time the DPS spends applying to groups. The problem is that most people find playing a support to be boring as fuck, and the game doesn't have a great positive feedback loop for support contribution, nor does it present any scenarios where a support can save a player or party from a literal 1-shot mechanic if they screw it up. Playing a support when you're a somewhat decent or better DPS is even worse, because you are stuck watching the other 3 members of your party ape it up with low uptime.

Every raid since Akkan has started to incorporate a buttfuckton of unavoidable chip damage in one gate or another, thereby making supports 100% necessary on iLvl, but Smilegate has done very little to make them more desireable to play. Artist came out in January 2022 in KR, didn't come close to dethroning Bard in popularity, and it's been nothing but new DPS classes since then.
 
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Voldeth

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I'm Thaemine ready.. Times 6. Was a good honing day at the office.

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Voldeth

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Malakriss

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Veskal is a new 1630 Guardian Raid that will release alongside Thaemine.
Chaos Dungeon Enlightenment Level 2 added at Item Level 1630.
Added an Item Level 1630 Chaos Gate Difficulty
The Gold earned from the Kakul-Saydon Legion Raid has been reduced
[Balance Changes, majority of tweaks for Mages]

 
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Voldeth

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Veskal is a new 1630 Guardian Raid that will release alongside Thaemine.
Chaos Dungeon Enlightenment Level 2 added at Item Level 1630.
Added an Item Level 1630 Chaos Gate Difficulty
The Gold earned from the Kakul-Saydon Legion Raid has been reduced
[Balance Changes, majority of tweaks for Mages]


You're the quickest patch note poster there is.

Really excited for Thaemine as it's the culmination of the Legion Raid commanders. I appreciate that they made Normal mode rather easy to clear and Hard Mode is crazy hard as that design philosophy works well for me. With the Thaemine books I'll start pushing my alts to 1620 & with transcendence reclears will get progressively easier. There's also no reason to hone a main for some time, so we can finally start saving a bit of Gold. Also Lunar Eclipse set looks awesome.
 

kemuel

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I guess I'm retarded, how do I access my roster storage in game now, it's completely empty.
 

Malakriss

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I guess I'm retarded, how do I access my roster storage in game now, it's completely empty.
You likely have not logged in since the server merges. First go into your card catalog Alt+C and the extra storage tab can help you reclaim all of your cards awakening (40 at a time keep doing it til it's clear). Trust me do that first. Because you also have to set your card decks on every character again.

Everything in roster storage got shoved into universal storage, you can sort that out after. This includes your gathering tools they got pushed in there.
 

Del

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Still a few hones away from 1630 and I'm probably not stepping foot into hard mode until all my armor is +21 anyway, but my static managed to clear normal mode tonight. G1-2 are a total joke on normal mode, but nm G3 is still a pretty good challenge. Not really looking forward to the difficulty jump of HM, but at least it'll only be on 1 character for quite a while.
 

Malakriss

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June for Kurzan and "Ladon" (Echidna)

WTF
Western Exclusive Cosmetics
We conducted some research, and found that a significant number of our players really like anime. So this year, our western cosmetics will be designed to evoke the 80s and 90s anime, where magical girls and boys went to school during the day, and moonlighted as magical beings at night. These skins will stay exclusive to the Western version of Lost Ark for six months.
 

Voldeth

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June for Kurzan and "Ladon" (Echidna)

WTF

That is actually too fast imo. I suppose the logic is she's effectively free Ilvl increase and Thaemine Hard is too challenging for most people but I was expecting July/August.
 
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Voldeth

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Piloter? I mean, did they say what they were doing in ELI5 terms?

Piloter refers to providing your account information to another player who logs in and does the content for you. This is prominent in Lost Ark's most challenging content in two occasions;

1) For Hell raids where gear is completely equalized and there are special titles for deathless runs which carry heavy prestige. E.g. seeing someone with a Brelshaza hell title is a clear indication that the player is good as there is no way to gain an advantage on that content and the mechanics/DPS checks are equivalent to WoW's Mythic raids.
2) When a new tier of raids are released, such as Thaemine, and we have limited access to the upgrades that come from future clears (thus the DPS checks are very tight and it's not really possible to carry a bad player yet).

In both cases, the players that offer these services do so almost exclusively in exchange for real money. In the case of Thaemine, the First mode requires near perfect play from everyone in the party as well as a completely decked out character thus there were some Korean pilots (people who have cleared the content for some time in KR and are obviously quite good at the game) that sold the service, which were bought by idiots who wanted the prestige/rewards associated with the clear with the assumption that AGS wouldn't give a shit. Obviously this is pretty easy to detect and when AGS went through the logs of the clear groups, it was apparent that this was pretty prevalent.