Lumi's Batshit Insane Thread

Awesome, the Lumi thread has 100s of new posts. I hope there is breaking news regarding energy vampires and moon bases...

Oh.....

Burnem Wizfyre said:

I've still linked as many peer reviewed studies proving reading your post cause autism as you have about vaccines. You are scary stupid, don't reproduce, remove yourself from the gene pool.

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Cringing hard for you dude, when trying to look like the man in front of your friends goes wrong. Yikes...

The anecdotes speak for themselves. Its a nation-wide global phenomenon and its pacing to be bigger then this fake autism vaccines thing you guys harp on about here. The studies are on the way but aren't as easily accessible as you might have guessed (psst, you can't just google them, you have to actually get into the journals from private sites which are not located on your droolcup search engine. I dare you to try to pull a study from a small journal that could be considered to highlight vaccine injury you little heathen.

Slam your dick in a door, maybe knock that malfunctioning gene into place-- you're that fucking retarded.

jihodj said:

So let's go ahead and accept that all 30 of your anecdotes are true. I'll go ahead and cede that debate for the purposes of this discussion. HPV vaccine caused some people to have serious medical complications.

And yet, 30 cases of side effects versus preventing HALF A MILLION NEW CASES OF CANCER AND 300k NEW DEATHS PER YEAR LINKED TO HPV still brings us to the conclusion that you're a retard.

Congrats.

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Yeah but unlike the Polio vaccine injury and other injuries it appears HPV's Guardasil is doing a fair amount of killing on its own. That is going to need to be evaluated more seriously, and as I posted, its DECADES out from me being able to link a study comparable to say the Measles vaccine. This is one to watch, fatboy, and that was my whole point. I'm sorry you're so certifiably crazy and anti-science that you actually think there are long-term studies and data regarding the safety of this Guardasil HPV action that is showing up in the anecdotes.

Are you out of your fucking mind? How fucking stupid are you and WizbumFire?

Yikes.

I'm pretty sure you're just a pro-vaccine nutcase at this point. That's ok man. If I read InfoWars all day I'd think that there was someone claiming there is a direct link between autism and vaccines too, dumbass.

I'm beginning to question whether you guys even went to school. In the scientific method you state a hypothesis and then try to prove it. Take "Guardasil is safe" for example.

All this hodj guy has done is make assumptions and act like a rabid schizophrenic dog when safety concerns are raised. He will go so far as to provide data that ISN'T EVEN RELEVANT to safety. And immediately begin citing statistics on the greater good without the bodycount on Guardasil not even being quantifiable for another 30-40 years according to the entire science community. As I said before, these two guys are ANTI-SCIENCE. They are using tricks that anti-vaxxers use to distract and bury a discussion and never cite a source that answers the hypothesis, always comes down to the greater good argument with greater good sources (again, these sources have fuckall to do with the safety of the vaccine)

What you are doing with strawmen is outright schizophrenic, autistic, or I can't tell which. I am leaning towards schizophrenia with a strong lack of socialization (How many friends can WizFire possibly have had? Is he married? Who is this guy really? Whichever, I bet he is a real big hit at parties and is a very well-adjusted adult with many friends).

There is no way someone can make that many assumptions about an argument without actually being mentally ill in some way.

I hope Antifa beats the fuck out of you because you are incapable of having a rational discussion. You know how in a mental hospital they allegedly treat everyone like shit? I found out there is sound reasoning for that. That is the treatment you likely deserve at this point.

As fun as vaccine talk is can we get back to some whacky shit? I need Lumi to break this down. This is a lot to digest.

Humans are Waking Up: For First Time in Recorded History, Schumann Resonance Jumping to 36+ • /r/conspiracy

Where the fuck do people come up with this stuff?

jayrebb said:

necdotes speak for themselves. I

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Seriously?

Fuck, that is just a mind-numbingly stupid thing to say.

I see how you could say that khalid . At no point should anecdotes be used solely to weigh the safety of a vaccine, and I thought that goes without saying, but at some point when they become Anecdotes (backed by causation on timing of a Guardasil vaccine, with drastic changes in health states, and are being reported from everywhere from Ireland, to Germany, to the United States), they should be used to perform investigative studies into the safety, Greater Good or not. People deserve to know the risks. That is where I disagree with hodj who believes every single vaccine should be mandatory regardless if its reasonably safe.

So that's Anecdotes. Capital A. Or "The Anecdotes on Guardasil" if you prefer. I didn't establish the Anecdotes on Guardasil in this thread because I figured everyone was already aware of the ongoing controversy regarding this specific vaccination. Its the only vaccine with an overwhelming sea of profound Anecdotes being presented by doctors at legitimate conferences, to the point they have become the Anecdotes. This isn't anecdotes from Tylenol like "oh my stomach hurt" and I went to the doctor and he couldn't verify if my stomach hurt or not. I'm talking about Anecdotes backed up by MRI's, specialists, and neurologists nation-wide. Can they scientifically link it to Guardasil at this time? No, but there is growing scientific speculation on direct causation by the Guardasil vaccine. It will likely be another 20-30 years from what I have read.

If you're asking for proof that these Anecdotes exist outside of the blogs, they certainly do. I have seen my own family go through it. Its difficult to find studies that assess the long term safety of a vaccine, and its not a conspiracy-- Its simply an extremely difficult task. I urged Wizfire to locate the study himself if he is able to procure them faster than I can. I can assure you if you look into these Anecdotes there is a hell of a lot of smoke surrounding the Guardasil vaccine. Its not anti-vaxx bullshit on this one, which is why I singled it out in the first place when I raised the topic of vaccine safety and whether more meaningful study should be done regardless of the Greater Good argument.

This is pretty much the only vaccine that is raising questions that should concern everyone. This isn't Polio might maim your legs type of stuff in 1 in a million people, the Anecdotes are mounting up and people are demanding answers and fighting in Vaccine Court at this very moment against Guardasil with VERY good cases behind them unlike the mostly debunked autism and vaccine obsession these guys are going on about.

Throw down the money ya Google freeloading fascist vaxx-crazed four-eyes.

BumFire, what is your annual salary? You want to see some studies, then you can spend your own 32,000/yr poorhouse check on this you disrespectful little shit. Again, I won't be violating copyright laws by pasting or uploading the .PDF. I respect the scientific community, much unlike yourself.

You believe in investigating the science? You have respect for the scientific community? I doubt that. You're just a funboy farce.

You are free to locate these studies through the different piracy newsgroups. FOH is not a piracy community.




Neurology. 2010 Mar 9;74(10):864; author reply 864-5. doi: 10.1212/WNL.0b013e3181d2b508.
Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis following vaccination against human papilloma virus.
Bomprezzi R, Wildemann B.
Comment on

• Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis following vaccination against human papilloma virus. [Neurology. 2009]

PMID:
20211914
DOI:
10.1212/WNL.0b013e3181d2b508


Down over. Who's next on deck? Pop goes the weasel.




Mult Scler. 2014 May;20(6):762-3. doi: 10.1177/1352458513502114. Epub 2013 Aug 22.
Can HPV immunisation cause ADEM? Two case reports and literature review.
Pellegrino P1, Carnovale C, Perrone V, Antoniazzi S, Pozzi M, Clementi E, Radice S.
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PMID:
23970503
DOI:
10.1177/1352458513502114
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



Demonstrating ADEM here, shell out the bucks big boy and maybe get a clue as to what you are talking about. I am not going to violate their intellectual property wishes, nor copyright law by uploading it it here. You may be able to locate these in other respective journals through dubious methods, though.




J Clin Neurosci. 2008 Dec;15(12):1315-22. doi: 10.1016/j.jocn.2008.05.002. Epub 2008 Oct 30.
Post-vaccination encephalomyelitis: literature review and illustrative case.
Huynh W1, Cordato DJ, Kehdi E, Masters LT, Dedousis C.
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Abstract
Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) is an inflammatory demyelinating disease of the central nervous system that is usually considered a monophasic disease. ADEM forms one of several categories of primary inflammatory demyelinating disorders of the central nervous system including multiple sclerosis, optic neuropathy, acute transverse myelitis, and neuromyelitis optica (Devic's disease). Post-infectious and post-immunisation encephalomyelitis make up about three-quarters of cases, where the timing of a febrile event is associated with the onset of neurological disease. Post-vaccination ADEM has been associated with several vaccines such as rabies, diphtheria-tetanus-polio, smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, Japanese B encephalitis, pertussis, influenza, hepatitis B, and the Hog vaccine. We review ADEM with particular emphasis on vaccination as the precipitating factor. We performed a literature search using Medline (1976-2007) with search terms including "ADEM", "acute disseminated encephalomyelitis", "encephalomyelitis", "vaccination", and "immunisation". A patient presenting with bilateral optic neuropathies within 3 weeks of "inactivated" influenza vaccination followed by delayed onset of ADEM 3 months post-vaccination is described.

PMID:
18976924
DOI:
10.1016/j.jocn.2008.05.002

Key word, delayed onset. As @Neuromancer mentioned earlier regarding Hep B, it is very difficult to link vaccine injuries even at 0 hour, nevermind 3+ months to 2 years post-vaccine in HPV's case. Its going to be 20-30 years before we can get a good safety profile on many of these vaccines-- HPV, especially, appears to be the big boy on the block.

AngryGerbil told me to step on their neck until I hear the bone break.

Doesn't take much to sink the argument that vaccines are absolutely safe.

Your straw argument is dogshit. More interested in what ButtFire has to say, at this point. That's your little bitch boy who can't stand his own ground.

Props for taking it to the plate hodj

jihodj said:

See in the real world we weigh risks versus benefits. That's called pragmatism.
Literally no argument you can make can refute this reality unless you can demonstrate that the potential side effects will do more harm than preventative treatments protect against.

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You fucktard we can't study vaccine safety with that attitude and evaluate meaningful risk, the studies simply won't get done with your fascist mantra.

The damage Guardasil causes has not been evaluated the same as say Measles. You're out of your boundaries here. You have no studies to back up the safety of HPV because they haven't been done.

Antifa indeed.

Give me a citation that says the HPV vaccine ultimately absolutely prevents the development of cervical cancer. You have no data to support your claim. You're a blowhard.

jihodj said:

Did he seriously say this? Lol.

Retarded

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It was clarified. Down over big boy. Check yourself.

jihodj said:

Lol if gov vaccine was causing e0ok deaths a year we would know it already.

You really are one dumb motherfucker.

How do you "clarify" your gross inability to understand that anecdotes are never evidence? You can't.

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Anecdotes aren't evidence period, they are used to open investigations. Clarified earlier, stop spamming this thread I can see the rolls on your neck rumbling from here. How are those New Years Resolutions working out.

Oh and citation??

jihodj said:

Lol okay.

The issue has been endlessly investigated. Dozens of trials over twenty years involving tens of thousands of individuals.

Have you ever had a stats course? That's a massive sample size. Further the vaccines has been in widespread global use for over a decade now.

No epidemics of encephalitis have occurred.

30Ok lives a year saved versus two outliers.

300k a year.

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So are you saying that Guardasil prevents cervical cancer from ever occuring? Its curing cervical cancer? Is that the figure you are throwing out? 300k from your citation earlier of cervical cancer cases, are in fact, being cured and ultimately absolutely prevented by Guardasil?

IS THAT RIGHT???

I have had a stats course, I need at least an honest evaluation of epidemiological studies spanning approximately 30 to preferably 40 years before I'd be satisfied and much of the medical community wants to see the long term studies on Guardasil as well. 30 years is a common figure I see thrown around on the medical discussion forums as far as a good time to analyze the epidomoligical data, as guess what?

It can take 10 years to diagnose vaccine injury and 20+ doctors. 20 Years isn't going to cut it, thats not enough room for the data to be organized nationwide. Thats just the way the system works. Its a slow grueling process.