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Man Kills Drunk Driver Who Killed His Kids - Your Take
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Noodleface
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The acquittal isn't surprising because there was no physical evidence is what you really mean. Can't just go on witch hunts anymore.
Whether we believe he is guilty (we do) or not isn't the issue, it's really hard to convict a dude when the gun is gone and there's no residue on his hands.
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Palum
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We all know the lack of hard physical evidence linking him to the killing was only used as a scapegoat by the jurors to let him get away with it, they could just have easily have found him guilty given the motive, timing, witness accounts and the open box of .357 in his home.
If it hadn't been drunk but the dude had executed him anyway this would have gone the other way I bet.
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I think the lack of gunshot residue on his hands is pretty telling though. I don't know the reliability of finding that, but assuming it is good, it would show he didn't fire a gun.
Yeah that is kind of how I see it as well. I don't see any civil suit meaning jack shit since anything the drunk's estate might get will simply get wiped out by a much larger judgement when the pictures of the two boy's bodies get trotted out in the other suit.
Glad it worked out like it did. No telling if some sympathetic person at the scene "couldn't find a weapon" or gave some time for the guy to go home and wash his hands prior to being tested for residue or perhaps the guy really didn't pull the trigger. Personally I don't care.
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I'm not sure how detectable that is on the shooter after only a couple of rounds. Either way, nothing a little water or the blood of your children can't take care of... sounds like there was the typical delay until authorities arrived anyway.
I think it's less likely on a revolver as well because there isn't an ejection system to toss out carbon with the shell casing. They didn't find shells and didn't say .357 sig so we can only assume he had a revolver.
Either way lack of proof is not proof of lack, still plenty there to convince anyone under less extreme circumstances that he flat out murdered the dude.
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I would think you would get a lot more residue form a revolver. Shoot one at nigh and look at how much flame you get from the cylinder gap between the cylinder and the barrel/forcing cone. If you aren't careful depending on the round you can nearly cut your finger off if you place it near where the gas escapes.
There's lots of pics when you start getting into the big revolvers like the .500S&W and linbaugh rounds etc...just a smaller scale for smaller rounds so you can imagine just the residue left behind. As far as I know gunshot residue doesn't really wash off and can be picked up a few days later because it basically embeds in the skin unless you are wearing gloves.
If you put your hand in the wrong place while firing a revolver. Either way you're getting residue somewhere on your hand.
There's lots of pics when you start getting into the big revolvers like the .500S&W and linbaugh rounds etc...just a smaller scale for smaller rounds so you can imagine just the residue left behind. As far as I know gunshot residue doesn't really wash off and can be picked up a few days later because it basically embeds in the skin unless you are wearing gloves.
If you put your hand in the wrong place while firing a revolver. Either way you're getting residue somewhere on your hand.
Palum
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Yea I suppose the cylinder gap is likely to be an issue.
As far as 'durability':
As far as 'durability':
fromFBI The Current Status of GSR Examinations
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The way the local news reported this earlier in the week, I thought it was a slam dunk. But now, I can't even find what evidence they thought they had. Was this just a case of them prosecuting because it was the best explanation for who killed the drunk?
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Motive and opportunity are fairly good ways to spin a story and this guy had plenty of both it seems.
But generally, yea there doesn't seem to be a lot of facts about this floating around around this at all.
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neighborhood should be scared now, if this man truly did not kill the drunk (which we all agree he gets a pass on anyway), but was just grieving over his 1 kid barely alive and the other kid cut in half, at most he probably got up, went to the driverside, screamed "wtf did you do!" and go back to his kids.
then theres some vigillante out there offing drunk drivers.
i mean is there a follow up story? like the police going, yea this was done 2 years ago, and since he didn't kill the guy, now we gotta look for the "REAL" killer.
then theres some vigillante out there offing drunk drivers.
i mean is there a follow up story? like the police going, yea this was done 2 years ago, and since he didn't kill the guy, now we gotta look for the "REAL" killer.
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Pretty sure they just double down on the original suspect's guilt and never consider alternatives.
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Right? Wouldn't he just be able to counter-sue on behalf of his dead children?
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I can see why a prosecutor would want to pursue the case to the fullest extent of the law, but I don't really think this is one of those cases where they were just trying to pin a murder on whoever they could. I think it's just as likely that cops "botched" an investigation into the killing.
Oh gee we couldn't find the smoking gun of the guy that murdered this scumbag