Marriage and the Power of Divorce

Noodleface

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Brutal honesty is cool, and it helped in some way. But when it's spilling out across the forum through multiple random threads then it is time to let it rest
 

Betros_sl

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You said in post your pet thread that your dog thinks your women is alpha and therefore treats you accordingly...

You are the man. Your dog and your woman should know that you are the boss.

Think about it, man.
 

Steve.Oh_sl

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If people really love each other they should be married. If shit goes wrong or someone cheats, etc, then divorce is needed. But its worth a try.
 

Dashel

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Well, since this was already bumped may as well add this article. I dont agree with all of it but no denying there are Dad's out there who are whipped, cant see friends, no sex, etc etc:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/helen-...b_3467778.html

In the course of researching my new book, Men On Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - And Why It Matters, I talked with men all over America about why they're avoiding marriage. It turns out that the problem isn't that men are immature, or lazy. Instead, they're responding rationally to the incentives in today's society. Here are some of the answers I found.
Spoiler for length:

1. You'll lose respect. A couple of generations ago, a man wasn't considered fully adult until he was married with kids. But today, fathers are figures of fun more than figures of respect: The schlubby guy with the flowered diaper bag at the mall, or one of the endless array of buffoonish TV dads in sitcoms and commercials. In today's culture, father never knows best. It's no better in the news media. As communications professor James Macnamara reports, "by volume, 69 percent of mass media reporting and commentary on men was unfavorable, compared with just 12 percent favorable and 19 percent neutral or balanced."

2. You'll lose out on sex. Married men have more sex than single men, on average - but much less than men who are cohabiting with their partners outside of marriage, especially as time goes on. Research even suggests that married women are more likely to gain weight than women who are cohabiting without marriage. A Men's Health article mentioned one study that followed 2,737 people for six years and found that cohabiters said they were happier and more confident than married couples and singles.

3. You'll lose friends. "Those wedding bells are breaking up that old gang of mine." That's an old song, but it's true. When married, men's ties with friends from school and work tend to fade. Although both men and women lose friends after marriage, it tends to affect men's self-esteem more, perhaps because men tend to be less social in general.

4. You'll lose space. We hear a lot about men retreating to their "man caves," but why do they retreat? Because they've lost the battle for the rest of the house. The Art of Manliness blog mourns "The Decline of Male Space," and notes that the development of suburban lifestyles, intended to bring the family together, resulted in the elimination of male spaces in the main part of the house, and the exile of men to attics, garages, basements - the least desirable part of the home. As a commenter to the post observes: "There was no sadder scene to a movie than in 'Juno' when married guy Jason Bateman realized that in his entire huge, house, he had only a large closet to keep all the stuff he loved in. That hit me like a punch in the face."

5. You could lose your kids, and your money. And they may not even be your kids. Lots of men I spoke with were keenly aware of the dangers of divorce, and worried that if they were married and it went sour, the woman might take everything, including the kids. Other men were concerned that they might wind up paying child support for kids who aren't even theirs - a very real possibility in many states. On my blog, I polled over 3200 men to ask how they would react to finding out that a child wasn't theirs after all. 32 percent said they would feel "anger and fury at the mother," 6 percent said they would feel "depression," 18 percent said "anger and depression," 2 percent said "none of the above," 32 percent said "angry at the system that forced them to pay," and only 2 percent "didn't care." One man commented that his ex-wife had taunted him with the knowledge that his 11-year old son wasn't actually his: "I was angry at the mother...I severed all ties to the boy. Some may see this as a failing. I see it as self-preservation, and to those that ask the question of whether or not the courts will make a non-biological parent pay child support, pay attention: YES THEY WILL! They see you as nothing more than a source of cash for the child. It seems that a person in these situations should be able to sue the real father for child support."

6. You'll lose in court. Men often complain that the family court legal system is stacked against them, and in fact it seems to be. Women gain custody and child support the majority of the time, as pointed out in this ABC News article: "Despite the increases in men seeking and receiving alimony, advocates warn against linking the trend to equality in the courtroom. Family court judges still tend to favor women, said Ned Holstein, the founder of Fathers & Families, a group advocating family court reform. "'Family court still gives custody overwhelmingly to mothers, child support overwhelmingly to mothers, and courts still give almony overwhelmingly to mothers and women,' he said. 'The family courts came into existence years ago in order to give things to mothers that mothers needed," he said. 'The times have changed and the courts have not.'"

7. You'll lose your freedom. At least, if you're charged with child support that you can't pay, you can be put in jail - and if you can't afford a lawyer, you don't have the right to have one appointed because, according to the Supreme Court, it's technically a civil matter, never mind the jail time. Fathers and Families found that it's the men who are jailed rather than women: "A new report concludes that between 95% and 98.5% of all incarcerations in Massachusetts sentenced from the Massachusetts Probate and Family Courts from 2001 through 2011 have been men. Moreover, this percentage may be increasing, with an average of 94.5% from 2001 to 2008, and 96.2% from 2009 through 2011. It is likely that most of these incarcerations are for incomplete payment of child support. Further analysis suggests that women who fail to pay all of their child support are incarcerated only one-eighth as often as men with similar violations."

8. Single life is better than ever. While the value of marriage to men has declined, the quality of single life has improved. Single men were once looked on with suspicion, passed over for promotion for important jobs, which usually valued "stable family men," and often subjected to social opprobrium. It was hard to have a love life that wasn't aimed at marriage, and premarital sex was risky and frowned upon. Now, no one looks askance at the single lifestyle, dating is easy, and employers probably prefer employees with no conflicting family responsibilities. Plus, video games, cable TV, and the Internet provide entertainment that didn't used to be available. Is this good for society? Probably not, as falling birth rates and increasing single-motherhood demonstrate. But people respond to incentives. If you want more men to marry, it needs to be a more attractive proposition.
 

OneofOne

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Aren't you the guy with the crazy woman who may not love you and and shit? If I'm thinking of the wrong guy, my bad.
 

Famm

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He is, she's pretending to be all normal and sane right now to get her hooks in him. He wasted money on a ring and everything. I feel bad for the guy but we tried to warn him.
 

Nester

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Do you guys ever have to deal with the whole ?sleeping on the couch? deal? I just do not get that at all. Does that really happen? My wife asked me to do that once and I said,? you are the mad one, if you are not happy in the bed tonight, that?s your deal. If you really want me on the couch, carry me?

Have you guys ever given in and slept on the couch, if so what type of jar does your wife keep your balls in?

PS ? Noodleface, RUN. Run now and run far.
 

Noodleface

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One time I my fiance was pissed at me and I accidentally slept on the couch because I fell asleep watching TV.. I think it was the most passive-aggressive couch sleeping ever.
 

mkopec

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I sleep on the couch. I snore like a mo-fo and its either sleep on the couch or get constantly woken up or punched for snoring in the bed. I choose the couch. And me and the wife have a great relationship too. That has nothing to do with it.
 

Alex

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Noodleface is going to be in this thread professing the woes of his marriage an impending divorce in less than a year. Everyone told him that on FoH.
 

Adebisi

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A few weeks ago Mrs Adebisi left the room in the middle of the night to sleep on the couch because I was apparently farting every 5 minutes in my sleep, filling the room with toxic ass stink.
 

Tarrant

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My wife never told me I am sleepin gon the couch but she has told me to "not bother coming home" before. a few times I just laughed at her and told her I'd see her when I got home.

One time though she said it and I said, cool. I ended up staying the night at a friends and had a good time, she ends up calling me at 11 and asked where the hell I was. I told her she told me not to come home so I wasn't. She says GOOD! and hangs up.

Then she calls back at 12:30 and asks in a quiet voice "Are you really not coming home?" I told her no and didn't that night.

She never told me that again. lol