Metroid Prime 4:Beyond

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Reviews are out and aside from some fanboy reviews from Nintendo folks, it's getting medicore reviews. Majority say the handholding is constant, shit level design, pacing sucks, and the characters after the 1st are just as annoying.

Given how long this has been in development and moving developer houses as well, this isn't surprising to be honest. But after ALL this time, this is all Metroid fans get and that is just horseshit.

'Metroid Prime 4' Debuts to Record Low Review Scores"​


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Looking at that article, it sounds like the other way around? They say that the handholding Navi characters aren't present for most of the game.

At this point, I'll probably like the game because my expectations are so low and I'm sure it'll be decent enough. If I'd gone in blind with sky-high expectations I would have thought it sucked.

I'll say this for the game too, the graphics are hands-down the nicest visuals of any game Nintendo has EVER published.
 
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I'll receive my copy tomorrow and hopefully I can play it some over the weekend.

I'm not worried about the negative reviews, I don't really have expectations, I just want to play some new Metroid. If it ends up pretty mediocre, then hopefully that tells Nintendo they should instead focus on the 2D/3D remasters of older classic side-scrolling Metroid games.
 
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cringe npc dialogue.
shitty new suit design. Always so awful. always end up going to back to the original/varia/gravity suits... these organic/sleek ones are just total garbage.
Samus not talking is even MORE out of place in this shit... I don't want her to talk.. but this is dumb..
 
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cringe npc dialogue.
shitty new suit design. Always so awful. always end up going to back to the original/varia/gravity suits... these organic/sleek ones are just total garbage.
Samus not talking is even MORE out of place in this shit... I don't want her to talk.. but this is dumb..
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This just unsold me.
 
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cringe npc dialogue.
shitty new suit design. Always so awful. always end up going to back to the original/varia/gravity suits... these organic/sleek ones are just total garbage.
Samus not talking is even MORE out of place in this shit... I don't want her to talk.. but this is dumb..
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Holy Jesus. Who the fuck designed this horseshit? What happened to retro studios. Wait don’t answer that.
 
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I'll receive my copy tomorrow and hopefully I can play it some over the weekend.

I'm not worried about the negative reviews, I don't really have expectations, I just want to play some new Metroid. If it ends up pretty mediocre, then hopefully that tells Nintendo they should instead focus on the 2D/3D remasters of older classic side-scrolling Metroid games.
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I'd love to see a 3D version of Super Metroid using the Metroid Prime engine. Pretty much the only remake of Super that would actually be worthwhile to do because it'd be so different (no Mercury Steam 2.5D remake of Super, TY)

At this point given how rare Metroid games are and all, it feels silly to even wish for something like that. It's kinda like wishing for a Morrowind 2 (the southern half) or talking about what you want to see in the Summerset Isles game.

Yeah, ES and Metroid are similar for me in that they're both series I love that have been totally ball-dropped over time.
 
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Didn't preorder, I guess we'll see if I'm able to pick one up tomorrow as a walk-in. Asked GameStop about a midnight launch, sounsed like that sort of thing doesn't happen anymore.
 
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Holy Jesus. Who the fuck designed this horseshit? What happened to retro studios. Wait don’t answer that.
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Retro isn't Retro anymore, they are Ninshitdo's lap dogs.

What the fuck is going on with her suit? What happened to the Varia they showed off? WTF
 
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Retro isn't Retro anymore, they are Ninshitdo's lap dogs.

What the fuck is going on with her suit? What happened to the Varia they showed off? WTF
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Yeah I'm also wondering WTF is up with the suit. It looks like something out of Tron.

Making her a mute when she has all these guys yapping at her was also a choice
 
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So the OG Varia is in the game, and only shows up during CS's that build upon...

Sylux's backstory ..

FUCCKKKK
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Only in flashbacks, huh? Well that's disappointing, considering we see it in the trailer.

Anybody playing this? I might not have much time for it until the weekend but I'll at least give it a couple hours this afternoon if I can.
 
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I played it today for about an hour.

It feels exactly like a Metroid Prime game, with eerie music, silent protagonist, space pirates and weird fauna and flora. The first area after the prologue level reminds me a lot of Pandora. Game looks absolutely gorgeous on Quality setting for graphics (as opposed to Performance setting). I only just met the first "tag-along NPC", he's a bit bumbling but I assume every normal human is bumbling and awkward compared to Samus in-universe, a bit like how most humans interact with Doomguy in DOOM Eternal.

I didn't click the spoilers on this page, but since someone asked about the suit : you start with the regular Varia Suit, but as is the case in pretty much every Metroid game you lose most of your abilities at some point in the prologue, and then you find a new technology on a strange planet that grants you this new suit and psychic powers (this is less than an hour in, so not really spoiling much as it was showcased in previews).

So far, I love it.
 
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Where does this sit in the timeline?

Are they shoehorning Metroid Prime in to justify the name, or just ignoring it?

I wonder how the bike/desert can fit, and if it could work.

it could be an interactive, "elevator" load screen. if it DID play as a classic road rash on rails bike ride, I think it could be cool.

large open vehicle areas have been done in lots of games. not are very fun. and, I struggle to see how it fits into Metroid. see borderlands, etc.

now, yes, giant open empty areas are lonely. so, I could see trying to play into that... but what I see there, isn't that. and.. Im not sure how you do that well and fun. either.
shadow of the colossus I suppose does exactly that. so I suppose the formula IS there. the footage of the bike I see however.. is not shadow of the colossus metroid.
 
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cringe npc dialogue.
shitty new suit design. Always so awful. always end up going to back to the original/varia/gravity suits... these organic/sleek ones are just total garbage.
Samus not talking is even MORE out of place in this shit... I don't want her to talk.. but this is dumb..
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They gave it the homeworld 3 treatment.
 
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So, he has major issues with basically everything I questioned and brought up previously.

But also several other major things.
1. boring level design. outdated metroidvania. this is partially interesting as while Primes were always pretty linear.. they aren't COMPLETELY linear. he suggests this one is extremely so. and laments new metroidvania advances in ori, hollowknight, and animal well, not being here. saying this is old outdated design. which. eh.. Im not actually a fan of a ton of modern metroidvanias. that said, if it is very linear, thats gay as shit.

2. collecting green crystals pissed him right the fuck off, and completely ruined his experience. game didn't respect his time at all. and listening to the nerd announce he needed to collect green crystals while farming green crystals pushed him over the edge.
3. was also super annoyed by a non-choice cutscene "choice" after the end boss. which forced him to fight the end boss again.
 
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ok, so its directly after Prime 3 and federation. and still before Metroid 2.

Do they actually rehash who the hell Sylux is? I 100% did not remember, until checking on the timeline. and noticed this line.
At the end of the game, a 100% post-credits scene shows Samus flying into space; Sylux then appears and follows Samus with unknown intentions.
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he was one of the hunters from prime hunters.

I feel like 99% of people won't even remember who the dude was supposed to be.
 
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I already seen all the CS as I'm not buying it, but I am a huge metroid fan.

Yes they do expand on the "why" and it's kind of *shrug*.. I was really hoping that he was Adams brother like everyone was speculating.. but nope.
 
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