Mikhail and Hodj's Political Thread

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hodj

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What happens when you educate people and yet they still don't agree with you?
 

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Sadly, that Dianetics shit worked more than you would think or hope. My stepdad bought into that shit hardcore and tried to push that shit on me for years. Then again, my stepdad is a chiropractor so believing in pseudoscience is kinda his "thing".
 

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Sadly, that Dianetics shit worked more than you would think or hope. My stepdad bought into that shit hardcore and tried to push that shit on me for years. Then again, my stepdad is a chiropractor so believing in pseudoscience is kinda his "thing".
Chiropractics aren't total quacks but the ones who think that subluxation is a reality and that they're literally shifting your bones in your back are in most cases quacks.

But if you've got a slipped disc, a real chiropractor is the only way you're going to function like a normal human being ever again short of major surgery like fusing discs and replacing discs with artificial ones and shit.
 

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Chiropractics aren't total quacks but the ones who think that subluxation is a reality and that they're literally shifting your bones in your back are in most cases quacks.
Yeah, this is what I'm talking about. The reformed chiropractors, that are essentially physical therapists are great. My stepfather is one that believes in innate intelligence and every other pseudoscientific healing method. Anti-vaccine, megadoses of vitamin C cure everything, everything can be fixed by spinal adjustment, biorhythms, energy fields, etc.

In a way I should thank him. All the literature he would get every week would always be promoting one quack therapy or another. It was so widely contradictory and at the same time always with grandiose claims that I started doubting anything unless I saw strong scientific evidence. It is what got me so interested in mathematics. I can directly look at the foundations of math myself.
 

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Article on the guy who is basically running the most oft cited reference by western journalists concerning the conflict in Syria. He runs the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (Reuters always uses his information) from his house in Coventry, England.News from The Associated Press
 

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Don't blowoff and link random youtube vids: address the actual content if you'd like to respond.

Lol, I'm getting careless too! I had completely forgotten the most relevant quote for the previous discussion. I'd be remiss if I didn't share it in this thread:

'Ce qu'il y a de certain c'est que moi, je ne suis pas Marxiste.'

Or,


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All I know is that I am not a Marxist.
 

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There's no blowing off. Your answer to implement communism is to get a bunch of money and pay a bunch of corporations for the right to make paid for tv advertisements for socialism.

Its literally the dumbest thing posted in this thread since Tanoomba posted in it.
 

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H Ross Perot tried that shit with Libertarianism. I suspect he will had more success than you will.

 

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There's no blowing off. Your answer to implement communism is to get a bunch of money and pay a bunch of corporations for the right to make paid for tv advertisements for socialism.
I said that's the first step. Put the lexicon of reality in people's minds. The seeds of revolution don't start as fruit.
 

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And if that's your first step, your plan will fail before it ever reaches a second step.

First of all, television is a dying industry. Second of all, no one watches paid for tv commercial programming. Its literally the worst idea Ive ever heard in my life.

You'd have a better chance just doing youtube videos at no cost to yourself, and reach a broader audience, without any cash required.

Again, you're suggesting that your idea to implement communism is to get a lot of money together, and then hand it to corporations in the form of advertising dollars.
 

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You're not reading and inserting words in my mouth again: as I said, every orifice of media. I'm not talking about advertising some old white dude in a suit on television. Social media is an obvious given. The presentation matters. You need a full frontal campaign of presenting real, truthful information for the upcoming generation, and this needs to be done for a long time in an easily digestible form. This takes lots of money. Capitalism has to be used to put an end to itself.

You cannot just install communism like a hard drive. Steps have to be taken, time has to be spent. The road to capitalism was a long and brutal one, so is the road to true communism, only hopefully less brutal.
 

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You're not reading and inserting words in my mouth again: as I said, every orifice of media
It doesn't matter. No one will listen or care.

It will be an entirely self selecting minority group of people who already know the lexicon who will watch and that's it. Most people aren't interested in economics, and aren't going to watch or care.

I know, you give me an infinite supply of money, and then I use it to pay my enemies for permission to spread my propaganda calling them Satan and the masters of all evil in the universe on their platforms.

Derp. Good luck with that pipe dream.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Already been shown repeatedly that when confronted with points of view contrary to their ingrained beliefs, people will choose to outright IGNORE those points of view, in favor of points of view that comport with their own preconceived opinions.

Literally you will be preaching to the choir, at best. If your propaganda ever started taking hold, the corporations would just stop taking your dollars.

Anyway, you premise that you would have infinite amounts of dollars, why wouldn't you just start your own media company?

Oh wait, people with that kind of money have, and they don't do so well. In fact they do pretty miserably, like Al Gore's network or Air America.

Alright so now that we see that you're first step is fatally flawed, what's your second step?

And what's your plan B when step 1 fails to deliver?
 
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