Mikhail and Hodj's Political Thread

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TheBeagle

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So the only thing guiding morals now is profit?
You are the only one talking about morals dude. You're arguing against yourself.

Perhaps you forgot what a democracy is. A democracy isn't some magical society where you are guaranteed to never be offended.
 

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You are the only one talking about morals dude. You're arguing against yourself.

Perhaps you forgot what a democracy is. A democracy isn't some magical society where you are guaranteed to never be offended.
You were the one explicitly stating decency=morality
 

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You are disapproving of gay people being allowed to show their normal relationships.

You keep mentioning how you are just against gay porn being shown to kids. You know that is absurd and that the law in russia is worded to sound like that but the real intent is to stop mainstream portrayal of gays. It is just like poll tax laws talking about wanting to make sure people are smart enough to understand the issues, when in fact they were specifically designed to disenfranchise black people. No one with any intelligence is fooled by the silly wording of the law or its real meaning.

You advocating "absolute rule by the majority" is pretty fucking scary too. No one of any decency supports racist or bigoted laws based solely on what the majority wants.
Their relationships aren't normal. That's the point. Should a 60 year old dude be making out with a 20 year old girl in front of my kids? How about a mistress and her slave on a dog leash in a latex suit being walked around in town square in front of my kids. Is that relationship normal?
 

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Nebulous allusions to evidence gathered about a hypothetical mass media system that we don't actually have aren't equivalent to actually providing that sort of evidence. I'm perfectly willing to go out on a limb and say you don't have any such evidence and that until you do, you haven't actually provided any reason for anyone to believe your claims about harm. Moreover, given that you're not obligated to consume media (unlike say, medicine or food) the harm is that of someone deliberately walking into someone else's outstretched fist. You'd also have to show that the harm isn't self-inflicted (which is completely impossible).
Where is your evidence that communism is currently the best societal system?

How can one this day in age completely avoid media?
 

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Considering morality is most definatley both biological and social how can there not be?
Considering half of our country doesn't even believe in evolution/science/biology, that's hardly an argument for the establishment of the thought police.

It's like you completely disregard the fact that the teatards and religious nuts won't use those tools that you are so willing to give them, to suppress tons of shit you agree with.
 
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In a civil society there is always a compromise to be reached. If 90% don't want to hear that fag shit, their wishes should be respected
Why should they be respected? You still haven't given a justification for the ethical supremacy of majority opinion.

I have the option of buying that book or not and learning about that material or not, as does my kid. My kid doesnt have the option of NOT being exposted to 2 dudes kissing each other, or some activist handing out gay propaganda.
You haven't established that exposure to those things actually causes harm.
 

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We lock them up - law and order bro. Always have, always will. Do you even History, bro?
Err I should have said before they commit any acts that harm others. Seems the way Mik thinks it would be okay to lock them up before the fact if it could be shown such a defect would most likely result in the person committing a violent actm
 

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Considering half of our country doesn't even believe in evolution/science/biology, that's hardly an argument for the establishment of the thought police.

It's like you completely disregard the fact that the teatards and religious nuts won't use those tools that you are so willing to give them, to suppress tons of shit you agree with.
Why do always bring up religion? You a closet Mormon?
 
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Their relationships aren't normal. That's the point. Should a 60 year old dude be making out with a 20 year old girl in front of my kids? How about a mistress and her slave on a dog leash in a latex suit being walked around in town square in front of my kids. Is that relationship normal?
What difference does it make if it's "normal?"
 

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Why should they be respected? You still haven't given a justification for the ethical supremacy of majority opinion.
Here, let me try this stupid type of argumentation as well.

Why should the wishes of the 10% be respected over the wishes of the 90%?
 

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Why should the wishes of the 10% be respected over the wishes of the 90%?
Freedom and the Bill of Rights. I'm shocked that an american citizen would say something like that.
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Where is your evidence that communism is currently the best societal system?
That's a (really) long side argument about the exploitative nature of capital relations. I'm happy to have it, but it'll totally shit all over this censorship debate and I really like that it's happening. Make a new thread for it in the shaw or wait later and ask me again.

How can one this day in age completely avoid media?
Today more than ever you have the most options for deciding which media is hitting your brain. It's abundance hasn't created a paucity of choice. It's exactly the opposite.
 

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Considering half of our country doesn't even believe in evolution/science/biology, that's hardly an argument for the establishment of the thought police.

It's like you completely disregard the fact that the teatards and religious nuts won't use those tools that you are so willing to give them, to suppress tons of shit you agree with.
let's compare scientific support with moral/normality of the society. That will work well.
 

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Their relationships aren't normal. That's the point.
Gay sex isn't abnormal or "against nature". Why do you turn into sounding exactly like a religious freak about this issue? Let gay people live how they want, show movies that they like, etc. It doesn't hurt you at all.
 

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Mik which communist nations are fairing better than socialist or capitalist ones?

You know currently, if ever, communism isn't even feasible, right?
 
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