Mikhail and Hodj's Political Thread
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I think it has been successfully implemented because of the evidence (as opposed to naked ideological assertion) I've already given you (and other evidence besides that).
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I live where the community standard suits me. I dont understand why its so difficult. I dont live in Singapore because I dont want to be caned if I absent mindedly spit gum on the sidewalk, I dont live in Saudi Arabia because i like to see tits hanging out and drink a beer, and I dont live in Zimbabwe because I dont want to carry a duffel bag of money to the store to buy a loaf of bread.
The scenarios you come up with are ridiculous. A community decency standard isn't some hypothetical you can discuss in the abstract. It is derived from what is commonly accepted by a large group of people to be moral norm.
Here let me try.
Is murder wrong or not?
Wrong.
Why?
Because you deprive another human being of a right to life, blah blah blah
OH, so what if a society declared that murder would be legal? Still wrong?
And then what are we going to do? Debate whether murder is wrong or not?
Thats the essence of your argument is to push it to the outliers of hyperbole as to make it almost undebatable.
P.S. Russian military would never be run by fags. Get real.
1. I've already said like 20 times I don't want to derail the censorship debate.
2. I've already given you evidence.
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Loser Araysar
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I didnt take my kid to a gay pride parade. This guy marched in front of my house where I live while I was walking my dog with my kid.
Lets say it wasnt this guy. Lets say it was just any naked guy walking down the street.
Is it OK for anyone to just walk around naked in the street? How is capitalism and free market going to help me there?
Loser Araysar
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Sure is.
And I think it is harmful for my kid to be exposed to a gay rally or some guy handing out gay propaganda. And so do the vast majority of Russians, hence why the law was passed with almost universal support. Thanks for wasting 2 hours of my afternoon on this when you could have just said "Araysar, you're right" just from the get go.
Outward displays of faggotry offend me as it does the vast majority of Russians. And 100% of Russian legislators. Thanks for the well reasoned and vigorous debate.
Of course it is. Moreover, that's not the part I'm abstracting on. The hypothetical I'm talking about has to do with where power lies. That's very important because if your argument has more substance than "we have the power to stop you from doing this so you have to" then it will withstand that hypothetical. If there's a good reason for it, it's still a good reason even when you don't have the power to force other people to comply. THAT is the reason for the hypothetical.
Murder is wrong because you're harming another person. Its rightness or wrongness is absolutely conceptually orthogonal to the matter of legality.
If we're living in a society where murder isn't illegal and we have some ability to alter that then yeah. Of course, that's a really short debate because the harms of murder are obvious. The harms of the behavior you want interdicted by the state are not obvious.
Because it was crushed from the outside militarily in order to prevent the threat of a good example during a period of heightened revolutionary activity.
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Stop either intentionally misrepresenting what the law is about or just not caring because you are a bigot. It was already illegal to hand porn to 8 year olds. This law was deliberately worded vaguely to give an excuse for law enforcement agencies in russia to shut down shit like Brokeback Mountain. The government in Russia is deliberately trying to equate pedophilia with homosexuals. It is despicable and it is very disappointing to hear you defend it. You are on garglemkchimpies side on this issue, check your bigotry.
Do you have any evidence that it is beyond your opinions on the matter?
Offend and harm aren't equivalent.
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Those hardly going as evidence that communism is the best means of governance.
You are the worst kind of person. A dip shit with a BA who does nothing with his life, but who thinks he is better than everyone else and knows what is best for them while at the same time looking down upon them. No wonder you are arguing araysar so vicariously, you are a giant faggot
How would you know? You don't know anything about them because you haven't done any homework yet. You're the kind of lazy cunt that gets his news from the television.
lol
I guarantee you I do work that's more technically challenging than you. I don'tthinkI'm better than you. I look down on you because IknowI'm better than you.
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You have a kid and live in NY City now? Hmmm, ok.
But you just answered your own question a couple posts ago.
If you don't agree with the community standard then you will leave. Pretty simple. You're example of a gay guy walking around with his dong hanging only happens in communities who adhere to that standard. And if you don't like it, then you will move somewhere else. You said it yourself.
Imposing the community standards of San Fransisco on a Dallas suburb is wrong, no doubt about it. But so is imposing the community standards of Mobile, Alabama on the fricking Castro district.
But you just answered your question in a previous post.
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