Mikhail and Hodj's Political Thread

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TheBeagle_sl said:
Government censorship is bad in all forms because it is too subjective and too easily manipulated by the powers that be. You don't have the right to tell me what media I'm allowed to digest as long as it has no victims (snuff films, child porn). Nor do I have the right to tell you what to watch.

If you don't like it, turn it off. If you don't want your kiddo being exposed to Miley Cyrus, then keep it on the fricking Disney Channel in the mornings and check the traffic on your laptop like everyone else under the age of 50 does.
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I'll just quote that because I don't think I have the knowledge to express my thoughts well enough.
 
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Tanoomba_sl said:
Umm, I'm in the least oppressed group of people imaginable. If I were rich, I'd be deciding the rules we'd all have to follow. No oppression here. Also, I have zero white guilt, nor do I have any reason to feel any. It is nothing less than remarkable how often people try to use that as some kind of counter to whatever I'm saying. Don't like someone who respects another gender/culture/race/social group? Accuse him of WHITE GUILT!!!! Come on, man.
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Bro, you are the epitome of white guilt. Let us never forget you blindly jumping into the TrayTray fray (TrayFray?) just because he is a little innocent niglet and then having to walk that shit back for miles.
 
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ZyyzYzzy_sl said:
You made the claim that that environment is fine if not good. Prove it.
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You're the one proposing violent interdiction. That means you have the burden of proof to show you're preventing harm. That means you have the burden to show that harm would occur absent that interdiction. I don't have to justify liberty.
 
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Araysar_sl said:
Bro, you are the epitome of white guilt. Let us never forget you blindly jumping into the TrayTray fray (TrayFray?) just because he is a little innocent niglet and then having to walk that shit back for miles.
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Don't forget how he praises the premeditated murder for hire of men by women.
 
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The burden of proof is on the side of people who want to censor otherwise "let it be", amid(?) the legal/illegal part of course.
 
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Mikhail Bakunin_sl said:
You're the one proposing violent interdiction. That means you have the burden of proof to show you're preventing harm. That means you have the burden to show that harm would occur absent that interdiction. I don't have to justify liberty.
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You have to justify letting strangers fuck anywhere they please in public.
 
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Mikhail Bakunin_sl said:
I'd find that fucked up if I thought for a second you were being truthful.
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Oh my friend you do not know tanoomba. He jumped right in when a court let a Canadian woman off for hiring a hit man to try and kill her husband saying it was fine since she was unable to get out of the situation.
 
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Oh ya in reality the bitch was crazy. Only after that he back tracked and said it was wrong. But tanoba can totally see situations when it is acceptable for a wan to hire someone to kill a man they are in an abusive relationship with, because what else are they suppose to do.
 
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Eorkern_sl said:
I'll just quote that because I don't think I have the knowledge to express my thoughts well enough.
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TheBeagle_sl said:
I know the conversation is moving fast and furious, but never did I explicitly state that decency=morality.

I will restate my argument simply to make it clear:

Government censorship is bad in all forms because it is too subjective and too easily manipulated by the powers that be. You don't have the right to tell me what media I'm allowed to digest as long as it has no victims (snuff films, child porn). Nor do I have the right to tell you what to watch.

If you don't like it, turn it off. If you don't want your kiddo being exposed to Miley Cyrus, then keep it on the fricking Disney Channel in the mornings and check the traffic on your laptop like everyone else under the age of 50 does.
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I wouldnt hitch your wagon to beagle's crippled mule of an argument just yet.

Who says that participants in snuff films or pedophilia are victims? If a child agrees to participate in a sex film, why is that wrong? Oh, is it because YOU as an adult determined whats right and wrong for that child? Because you decided that a child cannot enter a contract until the age of 18?

I mean you guys want to talk in absolutes because it spares you the mental effort from having to establish a nuanced argument like I have. But we determine every day whats right and wrong for our kids and we do it with good reason. I mean does anyone seriously wants the kind of world that Bakunin envisions where people are fucking on buses, pissing in the streets, fucking in parks and jerking off in line at Dunkin Donuts? Does anyone seriously want to expose their kids to all the aspects of the gay world or sexuality in general before they are old enough to comprehend it?

Come the fuck on here
 
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Mik you are better than tanoomba at least. I'll give you that. You would always find murder for hire morally wrong.
 
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Araysar_sl said:
I mean does anyone seriously wants the kind of world that Bakunin envisions where people are fucking on buses, pissing in the streets, fucking in parks and jerking off in line at Dunkin Donuts? Does anyone seriously want to expose their kids to all the aspects of the gay world or sexuality in general before they are old enough to comprehend it?

Come the fuck on here
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Hey I said no to the pissing in the streets.
 
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Tanoomba sides with anyone who is against the white heterosexual male.

Its your classic "rebellion against the establishment". Most people grow out of it after college. Some don't.
 
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ZyyzYzzy_sl said:
Mik you are better than tanoomba at least. I'll give you that. You would always find murder for hire morally wrong.
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I mean for self-defense or defense of another I think you could justify it, but it would be a really weird situation where you could get away from the person enough to hire a hitman but not enough to like go to the police or something. It sounds like the plot of a shitty movie or something.
 
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