MMA Thread

mewkus said:

this was his background. he can take big hits from big men and keep on going.

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Wrong Alex.

heh my bad, i though it was referring to the footage with volk sparring izzy

and izzy is stuck in a tough place to be an exciting champ as a counter-striker. i agree the onus is on the challenger to come and take the belt, it just seems most challengers are just too gun shy of the counter to really take risks.

Pierrera is actually from a superior tribal Amazonian bloodline, his dad is from some northeastern Brazilian rainforest that lives outside of regular society and dont speak Portuguese.

He was also raised in a favela worse than Charles Oliviera's, growing up super poor. He dropped out of school at 11 and started working at a tire shop, becoming an alcoholic by the age of 13.

Even more fitting is he LOOKS the part. There isnt a more criminal looking guy on the UFC roster. He is what the cops would call a "hotel mike" on the street and would approach with caution and think hes a bad dude.

mewkus said:

heh my bad, i though it was referring to the footage with volk sparring izzy

and izzy is stuck in a tough place to be an exciting champ as a counter-striker. i agree the onus is on the challenger to come and take the belt, it just seems most challengers are just too gun shy of the counter to really take risks.

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I think Israel is similar to Khabib in that his strength partly lies in the fear his opponents have to stand with him. Khabib's threat was his takedown and maul, and you saw even the best strikers just letting him swing on them because they were too concerned the takedown was coming rather than focusing on their own attacks. People are so concerned of Israel's counter-punching that they don't want to brawl with him, but it's a mistake. Costa was a good example. He normally is ferocious towards opponents, but he was like a timid novice and just stood there letting himself be picked apart. Israel has relied on the same counterpunching style in numerous engagements, and if you prepare for it you can predict how he will respond to any dive's you dig at him. The thing about Whittaker is he did the same 1/3, 3/4 combo on Israel for about 3 rounds before Israel set up on him. If Whittaker just had some variety to his striking I think he could beat Israel. The problem is his coaches probably aren't gaming him well and want him to go more towards wrestling or calf chopping.

But, that said, Periera looks like he will pick Israel apart. Reach advantage nullified, won't want to just pitter patter with him, and has the aggression and confidence needed to walk forward if he wants. Also KO power in every shot. Israel is a good next level fighter. He has taken down MMA guys who were masters of none

Till is just such a strange soul and a really cool guy it seems so I think people give him a bunch of leeway and respect because of that. Surely it isnt because of his ability as a top MMA fighter.

wtf, less than 2 weeks after getting ko'd, bigfoot got standing tko'd in a boxing match


fight starts at 1h 15min and stoppage happens around 1:20:30

UFC Vegas 58

Main Card (9PM ET on ESPN/ESPN+):

Lightweight: Rafael dos Anjos (156) vs. Rafael Fiziev (155)
Middleweight: Caio Borralho (185.5) vs. Armen Petrosyan (185.5)
Bantamweight: Said Nurmagomedov (135.5) vs. Douglas Silva de Andrade (135.5)
Heavyweight: Jared Vanderaa (263.5) vs. Chase Sherman (253)
Flyweight: Cynthia Calvillo (126) vs. Nina Nunes (125.5)
Lightweight: Michael Johnson (155.5) vs. Jamie Mullarkey (155.5)

Prelim Card (6PM ET on ESPN/ESPN+):

Bantamweight: Aiemann Zahabi (135.5) vs. Ricky Turcios (135.5)
Flyweight: Antonina Shevchenko (124.5) vs. Cortney Casey (126)
Middleweight: Cody Bundage (185) vs. Tresean Gore (185)
Featherweight: David Onama (145.5) vs. Garrett Armfield (145)
Light heavyweight: Kennedy Nzechukwu (205) vs. Karl Roberson (202.5)
Bantamweight: Ronnie Lawrence (135.5) vs. Saidyokub Kakhramonov (136)

still don't understand why doing it so early in the day, sports wise isn't really anything on

UFC on ABC 3

MAIN CARD (ABC/ESPN+, 2 p.m. ET)

• Brian Ortega (146) vs. Yair Rodriguez (145.4)
• Amanda Lemos (116) vs. Michelle Waterson (115)
• Li Jingliang (170.6) vs. Muslim Salikhov (170.8)
• Su Mudaerji (125.8) vs. Matt Schnell (126)
• Shane Burgos (145.8) vs. Charles Jourdain (145.6)
• Lauren Murphy (125.2) vs. Miesha Tate (125.8)

PRELIMINARY CARD (ESPN/ESPN+, 11 a.m. ET)

• Dalcha Lungiambula (185.6) vs. Puna Soriano (185.6)
• Jack Shore (136) vs. Ricky Simon (135.6)
• Bill Algeo (146) vs. Herbert Burns (145.4)
• Dustin Jacoby (205) vs. Da-un Jung (205.6)
• Dwight Grant (184.4) vs. Dustin Stoltzfus (185.6)
• Emily Ducote (115.6) vs. Jessica Penne (115.8)

Goatface said:

still don't understand why doing it so early in the day

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Half the main card are girls. Nobody is going to watch that shit anyways.