Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

GuardianX

GuardianX

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Feel like it's easier to list the classes that can't solo.

Clerics, rogues, fighters, spellblade (not entirely sure but pretty sure).

Everyone else can solo with scaling degrees of success.

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I wanna ask here, the topic of bard twisting has been a hot one,

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the OG question:

Not if they were all combined! You'd use your damage abilities, CC or the rest of your kit.

I don't think anyone has a problem with normal ability usage. It's the monotonous repetition of song after song x5 per 18s ad nauseam that can be off putting to some players.
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Xilith [MnM]'s response

It can be offputting to some players, but removing it destroys it for others. It's not about the monotony of maintaining the same songs, it's about the choice at each song to change to something that better suits the current situation or not. We could have made bards just have a few maintained buffs and a couple of melee abilities, to give them something to press, but that doesn't really appeal to most that truly love the class.
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That legit made me wonder: Do people who play bards "LOVE" twisting? I played a bard in OG eq and I thought of twisting as nothing more than a means to an end.

Are there morons / mouthbreathers out there that fucking ENJOY twisting?
 
Kithani

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GuardianX said:
Feel like it's easier to list the classes that can't solo.

Clerics, rogues, fighters, spellblade (not entirely sure but pretty sure).

Everyone else can solo with scaling degrees of success.

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I wanna ask here, the topic of bard twisting has been a hot one,

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That legit made me wonder: Do people who play bards "LOVE" twisting? I played a bard in OG eq and I thought of twisting as nothing more than a means to an end.

Are there morons / mouthbreathers out there that fucking ENJOY twisting?
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There are two different questions:

Did people that played Bards in 1999-2003 enjoy twisting?

Does the kind of person playing a bard in MNM/P99 in 2026 enjoy twisting?

I agree I would never play without some keyboard macros, it is lame gameplay IMO. Vanguard bard was an excellent take on the class.

The devs are completely out of touch by talking about instrument swapping in their 1995 level UI also
 
GuardianX

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Fair on both replies.

That community is gaslighting me so hard into thinking there are swathes of morons out there clamoring for fucking keyboard twisting of all songs and the only thing holding bards back is the lack of more songs to choose from.
 
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GuardianX said:
Feel like it's easier to list the classes that can't solo.

Clerics, rogues, fighters, spellblade (not entirely sure but pretty sure).

Everyone else can solo with scaling degrees of success.

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I wanna ask here, the topic of bard twisting has been a hot one,

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That legit made me wonder: Do people who play bards "LOVE" twisting? I played a bard in OG eq and I thought of twisting as nothing more than a means to an end.

Are there morons / mouthbreathers out there that fucking ENJOY twisting?
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I think there is value is having a rhythm to decision making, ~3 seconds in bards case. There is something enjoyable about it but I honestly don't think you really need to require the bard to click a song every 3 seconds for that to work. /Melody was a good solution to allow the class to remain how it was designed but removing the requirement to make that decision with a key press vs just letting it cycle, or breaking the cycle to change what is next.

I 100% get why they don't want /Melody due to bard bots, but I would be interested to see a design that keeps the spirit without requiring manual twisting constantly. I'll probably have a bard as an alt at least though because I enjoy the play style.
 
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