Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

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Did the starter rogue quest got a dagger you wouldn’t see until level 25+ in EQ at launch. Then continued it and got a grappling hook…turns out you have to use a slash command to activate it at a wall and you climb 30 feet in a blink. I wonder if this will come
Into play in the world?
Still level 1, dont care continue the quest then crash on note removal from inventory to turn in. Happens again…and again…will try again when 1500+ players aren’t online. Or maybe just shelve it until launch.

Pro tip, ignore the west gate, head to Feather bazaar/necropolis area to level, less people, more mob density.
That grappling hook thing is cool as fuck.
 
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bolok

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Or just level a bit. Rogue questline is pretty amusing. They definitely leaned into the mud actions with that one.
 
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Kirun

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Holy shit, thanks. That's helpful. I saw a whole long convo on the Discord the other day about why not having maps in games now is retarded. Basically everyone is going to look one up anyway, so why waste time?
Umm...it's about IMMERSION! Hello!?!?!
 
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Kithani

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I 100% support player made maps like this. Because the thing is. You only need them if you don't go to that area often or simply didn't want to explore it.

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To this day I don't know much about the more obscure dungeons like Splitpaw. But I knew about cool stuff like the banker in Runnyeye and the town at the bottom of Crystal Keep even though both were useless overall. If everything is built to maximum efficiency then nothing is really interesting.

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They should make it so you can pull shit like this up in game IMO instead of making me alt tab
 
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Quaid

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They should make it so you can pull shit like this up in game IMO instead of making me alt tab

I really don’t understand why it’s even controversial.

They’ll go as far as only giving you one backpack slot because you only have one back, and making it so open flame light sources can’t go on your belt slot, but we’re all supposed to submit to the idea that the world would not have paper maps available.
 

Kithani

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I really don’t understand why it’s even controversial.

They’ll go as far as only giving you one backpack slot because you only have one back, and making it so open flame light sources can’t go on your belt slot, but we’re all supposed to submit to the idea that the world would not have paper maps available.
I get it a little bit. It’s definitely different with EQs map that is very geometric and places a marker where you character is, but I think if you had a somewhat similar system but let players sell in game maps that were styled better / more thematic and didn’t have your personal location on it, it would be pretty cool.

I mean it would be more “immersive” and would basically be pulling up the EQAtlas or P99 map anyway. And ZOMG if it is dark you could even require the player to equip a CANDLE TO READ IT
 

Kithani

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You play full screen and don't have two monitors? What the fuck?
I play Full Screen Windowed mode on a fucking couch as the good lord intended sir.

First person camera only too none of this pussy ass scroll out behind your chat bullshit which is completely unclassic carebear shit for this supposedly “hardcore” game
 
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bolok

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I play Full Screen Windowed mode on a fucking couch as the good lord intended sir.

First person camera only too none of this pussy ass scroll out behind your chat bullshit which is completely unclassic carebear shit for this supposedly “hardcore” game
First person in dungeons, cuz the camera controls were aids. i never understood how you could pull in first person and not get all kinds of shit trained on you from behind. Other than being a camera spinning spastic.
 

Quaid

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I get it a little bit. It’s definitely different with EQs map that is very geometric and places a marker where you character is, but I think if you had a somewhat similar system but let players sell in game maps that were styled better / more thematic and didn’t have your personal location on it, it would be pretty cool.

I mean it would be more “immersive” and would basically be pulling up the EQAtlas or P99 map anyway. And ZOMG if it is dark you could even require the player to equip a CANDLE TO READ IT

yeah i don’t think there should be a map that has a representation of the player’s location at all.
 

bolok

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I really don’t understand why it’s even controversial.

They’ll go as far as only giving you one backpack slot because you only have one back, and making it so open flame light sources can’t go on your belt slot, but we’re all supposed to submit to the idea that the world would not have paper maps available.
I could see rough maps being posters , planning tables, or props in game in quest areas. Maybe the inquistors track down rogue map makers? Lore-ing up reasons for map free existence wouldn't take that much
 

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In game map just means second monitor is used for other things. I am going to use one, especially when the town is that huge. I am going to google where shit is constantly, I am going to try not to but when quests are go to these 5 locations…rather not spend my evening wondering around in spirals or grids until I find what I am looking for.

Oh and the watchman that worked when hailed were accurate enough to find where to go.
 
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Kithani

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In game map just means second monitor is used for other things. I am going to use one, especially when the town is that huge. I am going to google where shit is constantly, I am going to try not to but when quests are go to these 5 locations…rather not spend my evening wondering around in spirals or grids until I find what I am looking for.
Maybe the game just isn’t FOR you bro!

But seriously, why do I spawn with some vague ass note if you can put ink on paper why not just draw a shitty map with directions!?
 

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There should be in game maps you can get for quest rewards or someone gives you at the start of a quest, or just be able to buy some of them. But they’re just a static hand drawn looking map you can write notes on, no player location. If you want to know where you are and what direction you need to go, figure it out. That shit would absolutely exist in any fantasy world.
 
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bolok

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I mean the point is to send you into the city and use the guards and waypoints to start making a model of the layout in your head. Not to just beeline through a map like a smooth brain.
 
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Kirun

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Maybe the game just isn’t FOR you bro!

But seriously, why do I spawn with some vague ass note if you can put ink on paper why not just draw a shitty map with directions!?
Guildmaster that can teach me how to launch literal molten lava from my fingertips and asshole, but somehow doesn't have the magic to draw a couple of simple lines.

Now THAT is immersion! Definitely not tedium for tedium's sake.
 
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Gravel

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I mean the point is to send you into the city and use the guards and waypoints to start making a model of the layout in your head. Not to just beeline through a map like a smooth brain.
And yet, maps exist in the real world because "just memorizing everything" doesn't actually work.
 
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Quaid

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I mean the point is to send you into the city and use the guards and waypoints to start making a model of the layout in your head. Not to just beeline through a map like a smooth brain.

The first time i go to a new city i use a map… then eventually i don’t have to. Should i just go around to local restaurants and ask bartenders for directions instead, otherwise I’m a ‘smooth brain’?