Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

Old Man Potter said:

Does Shawn Lord ever stop by here and engage with people?

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Yeah he posts on the account Nirgon he said his inspiration to make MnM is when his Erudite guild got banned on p99

Man i can’t lie, this delay announcement has made me much more optimistic about the game.

I can’t wait to hear their new class design direction. I think a lot hinges on it.

Quaid said:

Man i can’t lie, this delay announcement has made me much more optimistic about the game.

I can’t wait to hear their new class design direction. I think a lot hinges on it.

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Wake me up when it goes beyond Character Classes - Project 1999 Wiki

Do not disrespect the Dark Men of Odus

Another really important benefit of this delay is players will have three starting zones to choose from.

Spreading out the population will mean fewer day-1 servers will be necessary, and the load on zones will be more spread out. I wonder if part of this change is a kind of fail-safe, so if they can't figure out the item storage related lag they introduced to Night Harbour in time for EA at least players are a bit more spread out.

I'm real curious to see how far along Ail'Voreth (spelling?) is after the length of time it is taking Falindral to get polished up. Four extra months is really not a ton of time...

Old Man Potter said:

Does Shawn Lord ever stop by here and engage with people?

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I think he did early on but the jaded assholes ran him off.

Hekotat said:

I think he did early on but the jaded assholes ran him off.

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Oh please.

If he needs to constantly be patted on the head and affirmed I’m glad he stays away.

That kind of interaction is utterly useless.

Flobee said:

Same can be said about the doomer whining that about 80% of the "critique" in this thread. I don't think there is any danger of this forum producing dev bootlickers

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Is it just doomer whining? Or is some of it warranted criticism?

They just delayed a hard launch date that would see significant revenue to pay unpaid staff because the game as it stands doesn’t have strong enough appeal. (Classes/gameplay, itemization, performance)

I think the evidence leans one way more than the other.

Ether said:

I’m curious, is you guys’ general consensus that a successful MMO that captures the 1999 EQ feeling of wonderment/newness no longer possible? Or will it take another big jump in technology? Or do you have to be in your teens or 20s to feel that? I don’t pretend to know the answer, I’m just curious what y’all think.

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It's both an age of the player phenomenon, as well as the time period the game came out. You'll never recapture 1999 era internet where everyone wasn't so connected like they are now.

Several people have mentioned it over the years in this thread, but you're talking peak instant messaging era (ICQ, AIM, etc) and EQ was basically a social media platform wrapped in the package of an RPG. The whole idea of sitting around a camp waiting for respawns works when you'd be sitting there waiting for your friends to message you anyway. In 2026, that's just not a thing that a game can replicate.

Remember EQIM

Gravel said:

It's both an age of the player phenomenon, as well as the time period the game came out. You'll never recapture 1999 era internet where everyone wasn't so connected like they are now.

Several people have mentioned it over the years in this thread, but you're talking peak instant messaging era (ICQ, AIM, etc) and EQ was basically a social media platform wrapped in the package of an RPG. The whole idea of sitting around a camp waiting for respawns works when you'd be sitting there waiting for your friends to message you anyway. In 2026, that's just not a thing that a game can replicate.

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I think it's possible but maybe more technological and/or philosophical than copypaste. A sorta crucial part of the '99 experience is a mixture of not figured out and new, which was critical during the time.. but the ceiling of general skill has been raised, the ability of passed knowledge has increase 10x. Tabbing and hitting abilities is fine, medding in and between fights is fine.. but everything is a health sponge to some context, samesame mechanics, we've all learned for 20 something years.. the "challenge" is more or less gone.. Mistakes aren't necessarily a challenge to intelligence but negligence and laziness. At the core r/n we're just playing the equivalent of fashion bag simulator but do I hit harder with new item.

I like MnM but the mobs aren't scary enough, picking camps based off composition or the sorta threats don't really exist; its just about efficiency in which camps provide the least threat and best rotational uptime to experience/kill speed.. currently the biggest challenge is am I over pulling or is there a caster in the group.. I mean have you been hit by an archer mob yet, you could literally leave an archer mob sitting no cc.. does/did nothing for damage. (bow adjustments today, not sure if that changes yet)

Maybe my '99 peebrain thought differently, but I adamantly remember dying being scary... mobs feeling inapproachable til someone more experienced walked with you or fafo had larger context. Granted, I was 12 in '99, and started with FFXI and SWG.. but watching my friends 9yrold play P99.. while his dad is a long time EQ player, his sorta wonderment/exploration hit's different than it did for when I was younger.

Certain game designs of a '99 mmo are absolutely worth keeping, but there has to be some kinda change to the challenge and I don't mean every encounter is a raid encounter either haha. imo atleast.