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Stupid things games companies have been willing to sue for include

Infamous Gameplay and Mechanic Patents
    • The Loading Screen Minigame (Namco): Namco held a patent (US Patent 5,718,632) for "displaying an auxiliary game" while a primary game loaded. This meant playing a tiny minigame while waiting for Ridge Racer to load was patented, legally blocking other studios from using the feature until the patent expired in 2015. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
    • The Crazy Taxi Arrow (Sega): Sega patented the arrow pointing players toward their objective in a driving game, stemming from Crazy Taxi. They successfully sued Fox Interactive over a similar mechanic in The Simpsons: Road Rage before the case eventually settled out of court. [1]
    • The "Saga" Trademark/Name Dispute (King vs. Stoic): The makers of Candy Crush Saga attempted to trademark the word "Saga" and opposed the indie strategy game The Banner Saga, arguing consumers would be confused—despite the games being entirely different genres. [1]
    • Monster-Catching and Ridable Companions (Nintendo vs. Pocketpair): Nintendo targeted Palworld using broad patents filed after the game's announcement (covering basic mechanics like aiming a projectile to capture a creature or seamlessly mounting a companion in real-time), though patent offices in the US and Japan later began rejecting many of these claims as obvious. [1]
    • The Nemesis System (Warner Bros.): Warner Bros. secured a patent for the "Nemesis System" in Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor, which allows non-player characters to remember past interactions, hold grudges, and rise through ranks if they kill the player. This locked a revolutionary emergent storytelling mechanic away from the rest of the industry for years. [1, 2, 3]

Bizarre and Over-Broad Patent Attempts
    • Bandai Namco's Ramping/Directional Prompts: Namco previously held a patent for displaying directional input arrows moving along a track rhythmically (common in rhythm games).
    • Generic UI Prompts: Major companies have historically tried to patent generic actions like displaying a map during a loading screen, transitioning from sleep mode with a specific prompt, or basic camera angle shifting in 3D environments
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the irony of trying to be edgy about being sued for stupid things is that games companies have easily sued for stupid things like the concept of a minigame during a loading screen, Or an Arrow indicator.
 
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I mean, they would be doing the "nintendo", I think most reasonable people know this. Not suing to "Win" per-se but suing to drain funds.
 
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It's actually comforting to know that politics isn't the only thread that Fanaskin makes unreadable.
 
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Gavinmad said:
It's actually comforting to know that politics isn't the only thread that Fanaskin makes unreadable.
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I used to just think he was a complete fucking retard. But with his work here, I'm starting to wonder if it isn't just a really good troll.
 
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If you think the above is bad, look into gaming aka casino stuff. The slot makers patent EVERYTHING and it gets super stupid and silly. One of the funniest is the wheel of fortune slot having a super broad on screen wheel patent, and then suing anyone with anything round on their screens.
 
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Gavinmad said:
It's actually comforting to know that politics isn't the only thread that Fanaskin makes unreadable.
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There's things in here to read? it's just pissing and moaning when I don't post

Also to cotinue with evidence

  • The Indie Budget: The development team behind Monsters & Memories, Niche Worlds Cult, operates transparently and publishes their exact financials Monsters & Memories. Their entire lifetime development costs sit just under $142,000, with only about $13,835 allocated for standard accounting and legal fees Monsters & Memories.
  • The Corporate Legal Machine: For a massive corporation like Daybreak Games (owners of EverQuest), a corporate defense firm could easily burn through a $140,000 budget in a single month of pretrial motions, discovery, and depositions.
If Daybreak decided to sue an indie studio for copyright infringement, they wouldn't necessarily need to win on the legal merits of "class design." They could simply file the suit, stall the process, and let the billable hours drain the indie studio's bank accounts until the developers are forced to fold the project entirely.
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this is funny because all of the icons were copy/paste eq icons before the reworks

Distinct "Look and Feel": Copyright law protects the expressive, artistic combination of elements. If a player logs into a game and sees a class that blends magic and melee in the exact same mechanical ratio, using the exact same spell icons or utility functions as an EQ hybrid, a corporate lawyer can argue that the "total concept and feel" has been illegally copied.
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It is still complete stupid cope and slob knobbering to be like “they HAVE to change all the classes!! Day break is going to sue them!!” Rather than “yeah some of their changes are stupid and came from nowhere”

Again… what MnM person has said “we are afraid of getting sued by DBG etc”

Having some random crap that is a /place holder/ icon or tree is what it is… saying your entire class set and race set and god set etc are just “lol placeholders” is stupid
 
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Siliconemelons said:
“they HAVE to change all the classes!! Day break is going to sue them!!”
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This is different than what was actually stated which in effect was "a lot of the motivation for changes classes and their icons is to fireproof themselves from being sued, the company is extremely financially thin and even defending a lawsuit for a month would bankrupt them even if the case had no merrit. If daybreak wanted to they could sink the game with 1 letter so given that it makes sense.

you a brain dead retard just can't let it go that people might do that

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It is still complete stupid
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Have you ever run a company in your life, been in management, have you been in the legal profession, do you know anything relevent at all?
 
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fanaskin said:
why would they say that outloud? that would be like wearing a Tshirt that says "i'm not a murderer" the act itself draws attention
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fanaskin said:
This is different than what was actually stated which in effect was "a lot of the motivation for changes classes and their icons is to fireproof themselves from being sued, the company is extremely financially thin and even defending a lawsuit for a month would bankrupt them even if the case had no merrit. If daybreak wanted to they could sink the game with 1 letter so given that it makes sense.

you a brain dead retard just can't let it go that people might do that



Have you ever run a company in your life, been in management, have you been in the legal profession, do you know anything relevent at all?
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So, its just assumed
 
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Siliconemelons said:
So, its just assumed
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Go back and read everything that was said about the topic, you sperged out for nothing, you can have your (dumb) opinion who cares

P.S. Saying outloud "we are doing xyz to avoid a lawsuit" is what the other company would use to say you knew you were copying and would be used as evidence in said lawsuit, this is why it CANNOT be said outloud. The only way to figure that out would be circumstantially making extremely easy and mild assumptions.
 
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We have to pass a bill to know what is in it!

I said the new SKs are stupid fake and gay, and it was met with NO THEY ARE SUPER AWESOME AND THEY HAVE TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE EQ!!!~!!~!~!!one11!

It is stupid cope, still is.

Nintendo and the rest of the gaming world was given a new modern ruling with the whole palworld thing not to play this stupid game of "we copyrighted a cursor icon and aiming, targeting clicking, pointing, and looking reticle that ends / has a clicking point in a variable of 1 - 300 pixels) so we are suing everyone luluzluzluzluzluzlulzulzulzuzluz" nonsense.

The creative and artistic world is even more open and free than the technical world.

EQ had warriors! guess we cant have a warrior, fighter, brawler, tank, guy in armor, or not, with sword, or stick, or fishing poll that fights things!
 
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