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Isn"t this like the 7th or 8th time DC and/or Marvel have done something similar to that?
I give it a year or two then they"ll go back to the original numbering when books hit a nice ever issue #100, 150, 300, 400, etc.
I hate comic book publishers because of this shit.

We are positioning ourselves to tell the most innovative stories with our characters to allow fans to see them from a new angle.

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Fuck innovative. How about just telling GOOD stories? It seems like that"s such a foreign concept for some companies, game companies included.

Tred said:

Isn"t this like the 7th or 8th time DC and/or Marvel have done something similar to that?
I give it a year or two then they"ll go back to the original numbering when books hit a nice ever issue #100, 150, 300, 400, etc.
I hate comic book publishers because of this shit.


Fuck innovative. How about just telling GOOD stories? It seems like that"s such a foreign concept for some companies, game companies included.

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Part of the problem is due to having the same characters decade in and decade out.

They need to perma-kill one A list and 2 B- listers every year to keep things rotating.

Zhaun"s_Shade said:

Part of the problem is due to having the same characters decade in and decade out.

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This is why I actually liked the Ultimate Universe at first. All of them but X-Men were pretty damn good for awhile before each getting progressively worse and worse as they mined deeper through more old storylines and tried to update them.

I"m interested in the digital day and date releases. Guessing they"ll be the same as cover price though as to not piss off stores.

Will be interested in trying out some of these new titles, with all the 52 week series and other things they seem to always have going on I don"t feel like anything is ever really able to be jumped into. Couple that with the lackluster thoughts people seem to have for those efforts and my interest in their titles drops to almost nothing.

I liked some othe Wildstorm properties, would be nice if they took this opportunity to introduce them into the DC Universe.

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THIS ISN"T WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK, HAVE YOU ALL GOT AMNESIA!?! THEY JUST CHEATED US!THIS ISN"T FAIR.BARBARA GORDEN CAN"T USE HER COCKADOODIE LEGS.

My own crazy aside the real problem I have with these types of decisions is that it is assumed that going backwards and starting over is preferable to going forward with the timeline.

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That sounds pretty terrible. Why not just copy Marvel, and have them jump into Onslaught, come out in an alternate reality where they come out more diverse, younger, and more extreme?

Some of these comics have been out since the 40"s.

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they that all the time.

Really, who the fuck knows? they do this stupid shit all the time. I swear the execs at DC/Marvel are both trying to kill comics.
Between completely ass-backwards marketing/distribution, and shit like this.

What is wrong with just letting books be independent? some of the most popular titles. Supergirl: cosmic adventures in the 8th grade.
Batgirl:year 1.
Just put out books with no continuity. People buy them. Ruining OTHER books continuity to reset the status quo on the 4 books you really want to do that to, is COMPLETELY retarded.

If you want Barbara Gorden to be Batgirl again than do it. Tell the story of how and why she decides to give up being Oracle and why she is now willing to use whatever macguffin to gain use of her legs again having rejected such offers in the past. I would be very interested in reading that story. What is being proposed is the coward"s way and it"s why I posted that clip from Misery. If you wrote yourself into a spot you don"t like than write yourself out of it. Do a good job, tell a compelling story, and people will read it.

This doesn"t sound like any of that. It sounds like cheating and it sounds lazy.

Seriously, one of the biggest jokes, is that there are 100 ways in comics, that should have her walking again.
And not magic shit either. In the Bat books themselves.

Batwoman, broke her back. Had Dick kill her, and put her in a Lazarus pit healing her, and resurrecting her.
Damian, broke his back. Used League of shadows super science to heal him.
Batman broke his back. We all remember Bane. He got better.
Think even Dick had it happen once.

In fact, is there any member of the Bat family that hasn"t had their back broken?
Jason Todd? yep, and killed.

Im getting the vibe that the relaunch is going to fully embrace the 52-universes concept and get all the characters of the DCU out of each others back yards.

The rumor sights are reporting that the Wildstorm characters will be featured as part of the "DCU" in the relaunch and really there aint no way you can have the Justice League and the Authority in the same universe and make it work at all.

If you spread the 52 new comics around several different universes then you can explain that while all these comics share a singular publishing "Universe" you dont have to explain what every other team is doing whenever a global issue faces the Justice League or why when the Vice President is kidnapped the Freedom Fighters get called in and not Superman.

The word is that its only going to be a reboot for a few characters.

Superman, wonderwoman, Aquaman iirc.
Little differential from what they just did to wonderwoman already.

Batman, and bat family nope. Booster, powergirl, etc nope.


Just fnking stupid really.
One of the big rumors is superman and lois getting unmarried by this.

Valiant is coming back in 2012. Go go Bloodshot and XO Manowar. Wonder if they"ll have chromium covers for their number 1s.

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Favorite title from them I think was Armorines

Also, really disappointed in Fear itself so far, just bleh. Feel like I should just wait for the TPB.

DC Declares Digital Pricing For Relaunch, Retailer Incentives - Comic Book Resources

DC Comics confirmed this afternoon that the digital versions of its DC Universe titles will be priced at $2.99, the same as its print editions, for the first four weeks of release before dropping to $1.99. Oversized issues will start at $3.99 and drop to $2.99.

The publisher also announced at The Source that "Justice League" #1, which kicks off a sweeping line-wide reboot on Aug. 31, will be offered as a $4.99 poly-bagged combo pack that includes a physical copy and an individual code for digital download. The oversized issue may also be purchased separately, at a retail price of $3.99 for either the print or the digital version.

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Grifter confirmed to be one of the new titles. DC also trying to get the word out that it"s not a reboot...

yeah, bringing in Wildstorm, and some of the Vertigo into DC proper has huge potential.
That is something I am pretty sure no comic fan will complain about.
There is some weirdness still.
The Authority and Planetary can"t really work directly into a JL universe. however, canon atm for that IS they are part of the multiverse. The snowflake in wildstorm is the multiverse in DC.
(how exactly that relates to the 52 is questionable, as the snowflake is much larger then 52 obviously)

Grifter would work quite well in regular DC. Wildcats probably would do fine. Gen13, and DV8 could as well.

Alot of veritgo stuff like Death+endless, Constitine, Hellblazer, Xanadu, swamp thing, etc already cross paths, and have been showing up.



Alot of it comes down to:
the mainstream comics are stuck in an endless cycle of rehash. These companies make money on selling the image of batman/superman/xmens/piderman. Those core titles, they put the best writers/art teams on. And just maintain the status quo, so new readers can come in, and get the product now, as they did 10, 20, 30 years ago. Endless event comics for this as well. Look at this thread for examples, people say they are interested? they go look at the current event going on. seige, brightest day, etc.

But if you actually like comics, avoid that shit like the plague. Its going to be an endless cycle for you. for you, the best comics will be the fringe stuff, where creators can actually do whatever they want. booster gold, powergirl, red robin, secret six, Guardians of the galaxy, avengers academy, for a few examples. or the really outside mainstream of Darkhorse, Vertigo. Which is all amazing. THAT stuff needs to be A++++ quality work, or it won"t get published. They can"t afford to publish shit.

The mainstream stuff CAN be good. As its mainstream, which means they can and do afford to pay the best artists and writers to do it. And the quality shows more often then not. But sometimes, the editorial mandates, can really gut it. And if you start to build any attachment to the stories/characters. enjoy having any quality story told, be retconned 6 months later, by a new team.

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Those digital prices are way too high, considering once the comic is complete, other than the cost of the download, as sales volume goes up, the actual cost of the comic approaches nil. I know they want to protect the comic stores, but how many comic stores are relying on comic sales as a main source of income? I haven"t seen a dedicated comic book store in ten years, they"ve all started selling cd"s, dvd"s, blu ray"s, etc.

I thought they"d so something where there would be a blanket sub to get access to their titles, I"d pay for that on my Ipad. The comics industry is way behind the times, and its still more convenient to download a DCP torrent and then move it to my Ipad. What a joke.

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Pretty sure my local comics & gaming store would go under if they lost even half their comic revenue, maybe just 1/4. Most struggle to get by as is, and I know comics and CCGs is what keeps them afloat really.

That"s really tough titties for the comics book stores though. It"s not the industries job to keep an obsolete store front afloat.