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Xalara

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Decided to switch from playing Mono-Blue devotion at FNM to playing Mono-Black Devotion. This will be fun, though last week I ran into a lot of control.
 

Grumpus

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I'm going to buy some cards for my Friday night board game group friends for Christmas . Neither of them has ever played MTG in person, one has played a video game. Should I just get them each a starter deck and some boosters? Or just a bunch of boosters. Or is there a better option.
 

Heylel

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I'm going to buy some cards for my Friday night board game group friends for Christmas . Neither of them has ever played MTG in person, one has played a video game. Should I just get them each a starter deck and some boosters? Or just a bunch of boosters. Or is there a better option.
I find that for players who are entirely new, the Vs. deck products and starters are pretty good. If you get a bunch of boosters, you can set up a draft. No one will know what they're doing and everyone will be equally terrible.
 

Grumpus

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I find that for players who are entirely new, the Vs. deck products and starters are pretty good. If you get a bunch of boosters, you can set up a draft. No one will know what they're doing and everyone will be equally terrible.
Cool, there are 5 of us so Ill just try and choose what color I think suites each person. Starter deck for each and 2 boosters.
 

Heylel

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If you can find em, the new Commander decks are pretty sweet and technically retail for $29.99. You can find most of them at Target or Wal-Mart. The Mind Seize deck is a little harder to track down because it has a chase card in it, so people end up buying one first. I happen to mention it because there are 5 decks.
 

Grumpus

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I actually went and bought them already. Pretty damn excited for the next game night. I haven't played with physical cards since grade school like 18 years ago!

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Burren

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I actually went and bought them already. Pretty damn excited for the next game night. I haven't played with physical cards since grade school like 18 years ago!
Super Bro thing to do; good for you man. I'll be seeing family over Christmas and buying a couple boxes of Theros for some drafts with my younger brother and friends.
 

Grumpus

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Super Bro thing to do; good for you man. I'll be seeing family over Christmas and buying a couple boxes of Theros for some drafts with my younger brother and friends.
I think it's a pretty cool gift. The group I board game with are 2 married couples. Now they will each have a deck and can play each other at home as well!
 

Wuyley_sl

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Plus those "starter packs" also come with a booster pack in it as well so it will be fun for everyone to start tweaking their deck.
 

Heylel

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Tried UW control last night at FNM and fuckin hated it. I don't know how a deck can be so close to Esper and yet play so differently. It just durdles the entire match until you maybe stick an Elspeth. I dropped as quickly as possible and just played Commander all night.

The upshot is that I finally picked up an Enlightened and Personal Tutor. It's the little things.
 
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Tried UW control last night at FNM and fuckin hated it. I don't know how a deck can be so close to Esper and yet play so differently. It just durdles the entire match until you maybe stick an Elspeth. I dropped as quickly as possible and just played Commander all night.

The upshot is that I finally picked up an Enlightened and Personal Tutor. It's the little things.
I see folks making more aggro versions of the deck with Soldier of Pantheon, Mutavaults, and Fiendslayer Paladin.
 

Xalara

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Played against a guy last night doing Dimir control but with Master of Waves as his top end. His deck is really rough to play against as Mono-Black because he had Domestication and a bunch of counter spells.

Like, Domestication just wrecks Mono-Black. I don't think the deck is unbeatable but I need some practice.
 

Heylel

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Last Breath is pretty good tech against both black and blue devotion. I haven't seen Dimir Control anywhere. That's pretty interesting.
 

Strossus

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U/W control top 4'd our 31man fnm, he mainly used Jace, AoT, counters, mutavaukts, Aetherlings, and 1Elspeth, complaied it was no fun, so he decided to make Mono-U Devotion.
 

Heylel

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It is horrifically un-fun. Honestly, this whole standard just bores me to tears right now. I'm optimistic that Born of the Gods will help a lot, but right now it's just does nothing for me.
 

AngryGerbil

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Alright, I feel embarrassed to have to ask a rules question here, particularly one that seems so fundamental and obvious, but my buddy swears to lord god baby jesus and thor that a 'judge' at FNM told him this is how Magic is played:

I'll keep it real simple. I have two dudes, let's say two 3/3 dudes, not tokens. You cast Lightning Bolt on one of them. On the stack, I cast Unsummon. Unsummon resolves and returns said 3/3 dude to my hand. Lightning Bolt then:
A) Fizzles
B) Gets to choose another legal target as it resolves and kills my other 3/3 dude

For 19 years, as far as I've ever known, the answer is A. My buddy absolutely swears it is B. He said a 'judge' told him so at FNM recently. I told him his 'judge' is a moron. It seems to me, the implications of it being B are immense. For instance, what if the second 3/3 dude belongs to him and not me?

The actual play, by the way, was him casting Cutthroat Maneuvers on his own Insatiable Harpy and his own Agent of Fates, I responded by casting the unsummon aspect of Simic Charm on his Agent of Fates. He argues that after Simic Charm resolves, he gets to re-pick the second target of Cutthroat Maneuvers and cast it on Insatiable Harpy and now on his Asphodel Wanderer instead. I argued that the spell 'half-fizzles'. The Harpy gets +1/+1, the Agent goes back to his hand, and that's the end of it. I made the above Lightning Bolt argument to him but that still didn't sway him. We tried a quick google for the ruling but it's sort of hard to google it specifically, so here I am!
 

Arbitrary

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The Lighting Bolt has no legal target when it goes to resolve and is countered. You don't get to pick new targets unless a spell or ability explicitly says to do so.