NFL 2014 - 2015 Season Thread

Gravel

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2014 NFL Top Contract Value Salaries

Here is the list of overall outstanding contract values. Cutler tops the list, but mysteriously absent from the "these contracts hamstring teams" is #3 and #6 on that list. Yet Romo and Suh end up on there. This is why ESPN "analysts" are trash.
See Grimm's response above. It wasn't a list of "contracts with huge values," because we've all learned that almost no players ever see the full value of their contract. The ones in their list are ones where they see a disproportionate amount of money compared to the salary cap. Kaepernick has a huge total contract number at $114M there, but it's almost impossible for him to see any of that money. Even better for the Niners, they can cut him at any point with almost minimal effect. That's why he doesn't appear on the list. But someone like Cutler has the huge contract value and it's structured in a way where there's so much guaranteed money and penalties for cutting him that the Bears are stuck with his ass for a while and it all counts against the cap.
 

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See Grimm's response above. It wasn't a list of "contracts with huge values," because we've all learned that almost no players ever see the full value of their contract. The ones in their list are ones where they see a disproportionate amount of money compared to the salary cap.Kaepernick has a huge total contract number at $114M there, but it's almost impossible for him to see any of that money.Even better for the Niners, they can cut him at any point with almost minimal effect. That's why he doesn't appear on the list. But someone like Cutler has the huge contract value and it's structured in a way where there's so much guaranteed money and penalties for cutting him that the Bears are stuck with his ass for a while and it all counts against the cap.
2015 NFL Top Guaranteed Salaries

Just stop. You guys are embarrassing.
 

Phazael

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Rodgers has a ring and a string of Division Championships to merit his contract. Brady, even if we ignore the cheating years, has a long string of division championships. Both guys have put up stellar numbers, year after year. Flacco at least has a ring, I guess and a shot at advancing this year, especially if hey get Wife Beater back. What exactly have Cutler and Romo produced to justify being in the same bracket, aside from the desperation of their teams at the position? Detroit could find itself in dire straights, too, if they have another late season melt down but I think they may actually go to the playoffs this year.

The fact is Brady has regularly redone his deal to get room for more talent, since he does not care about the money as much and can go bang supermodels once he is done. Rodgers deal is designed for longevity because he does not want to end up like Favre did, i.e. stuck with shit talent for ten years. The Bears built one of the worst poison pill contracts since the Sanchez one, which is why Jay can sit there biting his nails while his team is getting shelled on national television. Romo's deal is not as bad, but it is still fairly toxic and disproportionate to his results, particularly if you take his back injury issues into account.

Having said all that, I cannot say I entirely blame those teams for cutting those deals, because finding someone who throws the ball worth even half a shit is tough and fans have no patience for development these days. They think any QB can come out and spark a team to a string of wins and that is the normal state of affairs. That believe leads to things like the Kaeperbro and Tebow scenarios, though Kaeper does produce at times and his contract is very team friendly.
 

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Colin Kaepernick Contract, Salary Cap Details Breakdowns

$12.97M initially guaranteed (2014 salary + signing bonus)
2015 salary fully guarantees on 4/1/15
2016 salary fully guarantees on 4/1/16
2017 salary fully guarantees on 4/1/17
$5.2M of 2018 salary fully guarantees on 4/1/18

2015-2020: $125,000 per game bonus
Annual $2M De-escalator unless he:
Is named 1st or 2nd team All-Pro
OR
Wins the NFC Title Game, with 80% regular season playing time, & 80% of postseason playing time.
Must purchase (after-tax dollars) a disability policy for $20 million if suffers career-ending injury paid to 49ers
Its like the details matter in contracts.
 

Kaines

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Its like the details matter in contracts.
$40 million guaranteed (Signing Bonus + 2013-14 base salaries)
If on the roster 3rd league day of 2014, $7.5M of 2015 guarantees
If on the roster 3rd league day of 2015, additional $7.5M of 2015 guarantees
2014 Restructure: $12.5 million

And he'll restructure again to avoid a $27 million cap hit in 2015. But don't tell that secret to ESPN. They need ratings.
Tony Romo Contract, Salary Cap Details Breakdowns
 

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Cutler got a 3 year, 54 million dollar deal assuming he plays his way out of Chicago. Considering the fact is pretty hard to find a starting level QB, especially when your team is historically bad on defense for a 2nd straight year, I'm pretty okay with it. I hate the Jared Allen and Tim Jennings contracts way more.
 

Phazael

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Makes one wonder if he is TRYING to play his way out of Chicago, though. He actually gets more money that way and its not like he has many years (much less potential championship runs) left in him.
 
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Romo has restructured on an annual basis or close to it, hasn't he?

I've often wondered why the NFL doesn't make it harder to game the salary cap like that, or at least simplify these convoluted "cap number" scenarios that cause the yearly restructuring with some players. Especially since it's just accounting gimmicks being done under the guise of a contract negotiation, you could write anything on a piece of paper and the player doesn't give a shit as long as his guaranteed money isn't touched.
 

Gavinmad

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As someone who loves to make fun of the Cowboys at pretty much every turn, Romo is the reason they're coming off a string of 8-8 seasons and not a string of 2-14 seasons. He's probably overpaid, but not by that much.
 

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Romo has restructured on an annual basis or close to it, hasn't he?

I've often wondered why the NFL doesn't make it harder to game the salary cap like that
Eh, it's not like the teams are getting extra money, they are essentially just taking money from future seasons. If you assume TV contracts will grow (and they certainly have), you could even view it as a smart move if you think you can win now.*

Personally, I think it's moronic - if you don't have TV contracts rise at convenient times, you guarantee yourself a Raiders-esque cap hell year and good players walking away. (Then again, in Jones-logic, they probably assume that when they cut Romo they're going 2-14 with a rookie QB anyway, so what's the harm of tanking that year...)

*Or to summarize, the Dallas front office legitimately thinks it can win every year. Which about says it all.
 

Burnem Wizfyre

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As someone who loves to make fun of the Cowboys at pretty much every turn, Romo is the reason they're coming off a string of 8-8 seasons and not a string of 2-14 seasons. He's probably overpaid, but not by that much.
My favorite example of this is the Denver game last year where Romo throws for 500 yards and 5 TD's, loses 51-48 and all they can talk about is the 1 interception he threw and Romo cost them the game. Yeah lets blame the guy that threw for 500 yards and 5 TD's, the defense that failed to force the punter on the field the entire game isn't at fault, it's Romo and his ONE mistake not the 60+ combined failures on the defense.
 

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Romo's is something of an albatross from a cap standpoint, they're going to have to eat it one of these years. A lot of recent moves have worked to shed those types of contracts though and I almost guarantee that's what is holding up the Bryant talks. One of the best contracts they had was the initial Owens contract, because pretty much all his salary past base was locked into Roster bonuses. Once they "upgraded" that contract, that's when things went sideways, culminating with his eventual release from the team.
 

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GIF of someone gettingdat ass beat.

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Out for a season with a broken fucking ankle.
 

Sutekh

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Who's the Bronco fans here? Wake going to get Manning with a career ender. WHO WANTS A FUCKING AVATAR BET?
 

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Definitely not a Bronco fan, but if Miami can beat Denver, I'll wear any avatar you want for a week.
 

Gravy

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I'm not sure you're following me, but sometimes I can be obtuse. I WANT the Dolphins to win.