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they are ultra weeb games mixed with 2000s style MMO simple quests (but all single player, no multiplayer at all). i kinda like it, but its definitely an acquired taste. I tend to get bored playing after an hour or so in a session, which is honestly perfect for me as i'm baby sitting grandkids.

Yeah, the Xenoblade games aren't really my style, they're pretty weeby indeed. Here's my unpopular opinion on them (considering most people like the first one) -

Xenoblade - A fairly typical linear JRPG with lots of melodrama. Wasn't really into it. Rewards you heavily for doing all the optional content, so as someone who wasn't into it enough to do optional content, I kept falling behind on levels and having to grind. The story is good and I like the characters, but all in all I found it very overrated. It was hurt by two things: A) Having nothing to do with the earlier Xeno games (Gears and Saga) and not even any functional similarities. B) Being on the then-outdated Wii instead of an actual HD system, so it looked meh despite the amazing art direction. The Switch version should fix the second thing at least.

Xenoblade X - Was significantly more into this one, since it has mechs/gears ala XG. Totally different from the others, you make your own character and are set loose to explore a giant open world. The mechs don't become a thing until fairly late in the game. Game feels kinda soulless compared to the others, but it also gives you tons of freedom.

Xenoblade 2 - My favorite of the series thus far, I actually got a lot out of this one. The music and story and general vibe all reminded me quite a bit of Xenogears, only without the mechs. There's some really annoying shit in the lategame like how your characters get Pokemon-esque HMs and they become a requirement at some point, meaning the game grinds to a halt if you missed something that leveled an ability enough to open a door or something. However that's the game's only real weakness. Game is also the sexiest in the series, with lots of bobs and legs on display with the various hot-ass outfits the women wear. However be warned that there's also a lot of anime bullshit like hostile women and weebyness.

Torna the Golden Country - XB2's DLC is basically its own game, and had every opportunity to be fantastic. I actually liked it more than XB2 for the first ten hours or so. However they completely fuck it up at the end by locking off the final chapter behind doing basically all of the sidequests. Have to do like 48 of them total, and the sidequests themselves are gated off into these blocks. The whole thing is a massive pain in the ass to deal with and kills all of the game's momentum in the 11th hour. Went from being my favorite thing in the Blade series to my least-favorite thing.

Xenoblade 3 - Haven't played it yet. The characters and their outfits all seem bland and generic, like they decided to make everyone look the same rather than stand out, and I think the outfits might all be genderless weirdness (after how much XB2 got blasted for having sexy women in it).

Anyway those are my unpopular opinions. Xenoblade 2 is worth playing if one likes Xenogears a lot. Xenoblade X is worth playing if one specifically likes the mech element of Xenogears a lot. Xenoblade 1 is worth playing if one wants to just start at the beginning. Torna they just kinda fucked up. Xenoblade X is totally different from the rest, has no real bearing on anything, and is a bit of an odd man out, so playing XB 1/2/3 makes sense if someone doesn't have all the time in the world and just wants to get to the point.

If anyone's got any advice on Xenoblade 3 feel free to post it, since it's at the top of my "still need to play" shortlist with Breath of the Wild and I'm sure I'll get to it sooner or later. Would be sooner if it excited me, which it didn't from what little I played of it.
 
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I loved XC1 and XC2. XC3 was trash. XCX I couldn't even finish on switch 1 hardware.

XC2 is my favorite by far.
 
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Well they both suck but terrible frame pacing is usually a lot worse than a 30 fps lock.

The OG Switch didn't have the luxury of a 120Hz/40fps mode, and even the Switch 2 kind of fucks that up because Nintendo was too cheap to put HDMI 2.1 into the dock and that means VRR only works in handheld. That's actually a big reason to not buy one now and hope they aren't still retarded when the hardware refresh happens, along with the shitty battery size/life at launch which should improve just like Switch->'new' Switch did.
Kinda.


It does, but it doesnt. Nintendo making big brain moves.
 

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Anyone else simply having my approach to the Switch 2?

I am simply sticking to Switch 2 games on it as well as a few old first party Switch 1 games that either got a proper Switch 2 patch or struggled to run well on the Switch 1 while running a lot better on Switch 2. Like 95% of my Switch 1 games are never going to be downloaded on my Switch 2.

I think the biggest problem I got with that has to be the Micro SD Express situation. It feels like going back to when the Switch 1 launched and Micro SD card were still limited in size and very expensive for the storage they offered. I ended up just settling on a 256 official Nintendo Samsung SD Express card expansion for now because I found one at my local Best Buy and at $60 it was cheap enough to be a holdover while I wait for bigger Express cards to release at lower prices.
 

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I got the Walmart ONN brand or whatever, 512GB for 65$ and I paid 6 bucks for a 2 yr warranty lol in case it poofs. It took first time no issues, so thats good, hope a half a TB lasts.
 
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Anyone else simply having my approach to the Switch 2?

I am simply sticking to Switch 2 games on it as well as a few old first party Switch 1 games that either got a proper Switch 2 patch or struggled to run well on the Switch 1 while running a lot better on Switch 2. Like 95% of my Switch 1 games are never going to be downloaded on my Switch 2.

I think the biggest problem I got with that has to be the Micro SD Express situation. It feels like going back to when the Switch 1 launched and Micro SD card were still limited in size and very expensive for the storage they offered. I ended up just settling on a 256 official Nintendo Samsung SD Express card expansion for now because I found one at my local Best Buy and at $60 it was cheap enough to be a holdover while I wait for bigger Express cards to release at lower prices.

It's not in stock but I got this 512GB Onn card for $65, works fine.

 
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It's not in stock but I got this 512GB Onn card for $65, works fine.

Yeah I know I could shop around and maybe get a 512 for a bit more but like you said it's not in stock and that's a real trend with most of these Express cards right now. 512 isn't a size I would want to settle on anyways, I consider the 256 I bought to just be a temporary solution, and it was the only one left at the store I got it at. I hope I will be able to easily get a decent deal on a 1TB card eventually, really just waiting for the Micro SD Express market to catch up with the new Switch 2 demand and existing SD storage standards.
 

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According to DF this uses the same double buffering shit that Link to the Past/Echos of Wisdom use(framerate drops from 60 to 30 when a drop occurs):

 

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Yeah performance is ass.

NIntendo kiss ass reviews.

Switch 2 is a pile of shit VRR issues abound between portable and docked which they probably won't be ever to fix because they use shit components.
 
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The SD Express talk from yesterday got me thinking about BC again. First thought was, "I'm glad almost my entire Switch collection is physical, so if/when I get a Switch 2 I don't need to give a shit about cards that are as retardedly overpriced as Vita/Series X, since what I do own for digital right now would easily fit in the internal storage." Second thought was, "Hold on, what does that mean for load times........" After checking into it, there's still no way to install physical cartridge games to internal/SD storage. Switch 2 carts appear to range from about 15-50% slower load times compared to digital installs. Switch 1 carts take about double the time to load compared to a digital install. That's kind of weird actually; SD Express reads should be several times faster than old micro SD tech, but the Switch 2 clearly isn't able to even come close to utilizing that potential (I guess that's why tests with the cheap and "slow" Onn EX cards show little to no difference between them and the crazy expensive ones from name brands).

It really sucks that they didn't implement some way to copy the data to console storage and just check the presence of the cart for DRM purposes.
 
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The SD Express talk from yesterday got me thinking about BC again. First thought was, "I'm glad almost my entire Switch collection is physical, so if/when I get a Switch 2 I don't need to give a shit about cards that are as retardedly overpriced as Vita/Series X, since what I do own for digital right now would easily fit in the internal storage." Second thought was, "Hold on, what does that mean for load times........" After checking into it, there's still no way to install physical cartridge games to internal/SD storage. Switch 2 carts appear to range from about 15-50% slower load times compared to digital installs. Switch 1 carts take about double the time to load compared to a digital install. That's kind of weird actually; SD Express reads should be several times faster than old micro SD tech, but the Switch 2 clearly isn't able to even come close to utilizing that potential (I guess that's why tests with the cheap and "slow" Onn EX cards show little to no difference between them and the crazy expensive ones from name brands).

It really sucks that they didn't implement some way to copy the data to console storage and just check the presence of the cart for DRM purposes.

That would require minimal effort. They cannot even get proper VRR to function which my Dog knows how to implement correctly.
 

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I loved XC1 and XC2. XC3 was trash. XCX I couldn't even finish on switch 1 hardware.

XC2 is my favorite by far.

XC2 is really good and generally underrated (then again I think most of the folks shitting on it online just don't like that the women in it show a lot of skin).

XC3 seems to be generally not very well-liked which is a bad sign for me going into it. Then again, most of the people who don't like XC3 also tend to love XC1, which I wasn't crazy about.

In other Switch news, anyone playing Donkey Kong Bananza? Hearing it's basically the Switch 2 launch centerpiece that wasn't. Tried to pick it up at Best Buy, was told I had to order it for home delivery. They're really doing their best to put their physical stores out of business, huh? Anyway I ordered it, still waiting, meanwhile the physical store has them on the shelves again. Whole thing is comically idiotic, not sure why they didn't just get one out of the back, or tell me to come back the next day or something.
 
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i picked up donkey kong today at gamestop, played about 30 mins. its fine, doesn't really do much for me but it looks like its a fairly dense game with a lot of cool nintendo stuff. There are some complaints about how the game is 60 fps but drops to 30 fps on certain boss fights, but otherwise visually its pretty good. i feel like im playing minecraft though, you literally start in the mines and spend the first bit just destroying everything around you like minecraft.

i just can't get super excited, i mean its really basic visuals that don't compare at all with other modern games on PC/ps5.

its $63 at costco and mine had like 200 copies if you can't find one around you. gamestop, walmart, target should all have tons of copies

some of the memes coming out are funny

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Since search is working i'll reference what i said about XC3 before
Later XC2 combat was strict with defined element chains while Torna smoothed it out and let you go with whatever. XC3 they iterate the battle mechanics over the first couple chapters so you don't have all of the tools at your disposal until after.

XC3 story is front loaded with flashbacks to introduce the characters which is part of its slowness, you're getting all 6 main characters early and character developing them all at the same time. Thus gear and combat tutorials apply to all.
Still enjoying XC3 but will also echo that the copy paste colony theme does not make any towns endearing. I can't even tell you the names of any regions cause it's irrelevant to the plot what any of it is called. The atmosphere and environments definitely felt better in XC2.
I'm not sure if they patched / improved class mechanics but when XC3 launched being higher level than enemies made unlocking new classes a PITA.
 

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Since search is working i'll reference what i said about XC3 before


I'm not sure if they patched / improved class mechanics but when XC3 launched being higher level than enemies made unlocking new classes a PITA.

Sounds like Dragon Quest 6 and 7, which had a class system with a lot of potential, but kinda fucked it up by giving each area a "level cap" where you wouldn't gain any class levels if your character level was above a certain point. It made the class system turn into a pain in the ass later on when you'd have, say, two characters at level 30, one at 26, one at 20, and would be in areas where the cap on gaining class exp would be like, 23, or 27, so you ended up with your characters raising their class levels totally unevenly later on.

I preferred DQ3's way of handling classes, even if there was a lot less to it. Can't remember what DQ9 (the other one with classes) did.
 

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i picked up donkey kong today at gamestop, played about 30 mins. its fine, doesn't really do much for me but it looks like its a fairly dense game with a lot of cool nintendo stuff. There are some complaints about how the game is 60 fps but drops to 30 fps on certain boss fights, but otherwise visually its pretty good. i feel like im playing minecraft though, you literally start in the mines and spend the first bit just destroying everything around you like minecraft.
Picked this up today. Heard the mario 3d team made it so figure it can't be that bad.

Made it through the tutorial level and it controls great and oddly feel like i had to smash everything the first half hour or so. Never played minecraft so can't comment if that is the same feeling but just tearing thru a level was fun enough. Feel from here out I will less focus on carnage and more on the gameplay etc.

Got at costco for 62 bucks, seems worth it. Heard enough about the games not having the game on it and couldn't remember what to look for at the store. Was happy it booted up when I skipped the day 1 patch.

Think the trailer had different stuff could hop on your shoulder. Looking forward to see where they went with mechanics and if it can last a whole game.
 

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I got through the first part, and I like it a lot. It's a welcome departure from their usual platformers. Smashing up stuff is very fun.
 

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Picked this up today. Heard the mario 3d team made it so figure it can't be that bad.

Made it through the tutorial level and it controls great and oddly feel like i had to smash everything the first half hour or so. Never played minecraft so can't comment if that is the same feeling but just tearing thru a level was fun enough. Feel from here out I will less focus on carnage and more on the gameplay etc.

Got at costco for 62 bucks, seems worth it. Heard enough about the games not having the game on it and couldn't remember what to look for at the store. Was happy it booted up when I skipped the day 1 patch.

Think the trailer had different stuff could hop on your shoulder. Looking forward to see where they went with mechanics and if it can last a whole game.

If the Mario 3D World team made it, is it like Bowser's Fury?

Bowser's Fury was REALLY good (for what was essentially a bonus game they made) and used some new ideas, like an open world. There were 100 shines and they were all over the place. I found the game more fun/interesting than Mario Odyssey.