NVidia GeForce RTX 40x0 cards - x2 the power consumption, x2 the performance

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SO 75W @12V is 6.5 amps and that calls for 16 AWG, 100W @12V is 8.3 amps which needs 14 AWG and I can fucking guarantee that those wires are not 16 or 14 AWG my bet is 20 AWG.

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I mean OBV there is a problem when shit is melting.
 
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Sounds like cable issues are related to low quality/knock off cables?

 
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So is it confirmed that only the adapters are doing this and not the atx 3.0s? Keep seeing posts about this cable nonsense and I'm building a new system for buddy didn't know if I should be worried.

So any highly rated 3.0 psu should come with the right cables and avoid all this.
 

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That's the current thought, but the truth is nobody knows for certain. Gamers Nexus pretty well undermines Jay/Igor's conclusion about the adapter as a blanket issue, as it appears there are at least 3 different cables in the wild from AIB's/Nvidia themselves with different soldering set ups. Frankly, Nvidia should send new cables to everyone who owns a card at their own expense but I'm not sure we'll see that. We're also not even sure there is no issue with the new PSU's either, as we'd seen some testing showing some melt on the PSU side of the 12V cable which makes me think this may be something else entirely. There also aren't enough 3.0's in the wild paired to 4090's to get a good sense of whether that's a solution or not either I think. I ordered a cablemod cable, as I think that at the very least it will be better constructed than the adapter included with the Zotac but I have surety it's a fix to whatever this issue is....

I'm using mine and it appears to be good (I've been playing CODMWII non stop since Friday, so under load a good deal). I'd set the maximum draw at 75%, not sure if that's helping or not. That said, cards been awesome, quiet and cool, though I'm anxious to see what AMD comes out with this week - would have zero issue selling the 4090 and buying 7900XTX if rasterization is close and card is priced well.
 

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SO 75W @12V is 6.5 amps and that calls for 16 AWG, 100W @12V is 8.3 amps which needs 14 AWG and I can fucking guarantee that those wires are not 16 or 14 AWG my bet is 20 AWG.

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I mean OBV there is a problem when shit is melting.
That chart starts at 5 meters.

These are like 2 foot cables tops.

It's not the cables burning up, it's the connectors/pins.

And even still, multiple experienced testers have intentionally tried to get their cables to burn up and couldn't. It ain't the cables, its some shoddy work at the ends on some small subset of parts.
 
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Rip RTX 4080, ain’t no way someone will pick a 4080 over a 6900XTX unless you fanboy real hard. Hell i kinda regret my 4090.
 

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Looks like Intel is slowly getting there.

How crazy is it / would it, be if intel dethroned Nvidia before AMD? lol

Other than that, Im glad that youtuber sticks to hardware. Cause he absolutely fucking blows at playing games. Dude is just awful at Spiderman.
 

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Bam! MUCH cheaper than a 4090 and a 4080. Just need comparable benches.


 
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Well I am semi excited. Those prices are great for the top tier(not even remotely as greedy as nvidia). Even if its less performance than a 4090, you are saving 600 dollars and doing it at what 100w less? I want to see some of the more mid tier cards. What can I get in the 500-600 price range. Since I do not game at high resolutions or need 200 fps on things. They could really corner the market except for the top 1% who buy the very top end no matter what(some actually need it, but most just want it to brag to others).

Will be really interesting to see some gaming benchmarks.
 

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AMD used to be the Price vs perfornmance leader just a decade or so ago, maybe a bit longer? You could pick up a $200 card and get awesome performance for the time. 5850, 6850..etc...Even some older than this like the 1650 I think it was? Its all I used to buy because back then I didnt really NEED the ultra high performance (EQ wow and other low tier games) and didnt have as much disposable income.
 

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I could be wrong but looking at the hardware specs the 7900XTX is probably below or trading blows with the 4080. I'm sure it'll be good bang for your buck but it's not hitting Nvidia where I thought it would. Best case scenario here we see the 4800 drop down to 999$ and the 4900 sticks to it's current price, I was really hoping for something to trade blows with the 4900 but not match it in raytracing at 1000$.
 

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It's close enough for me if it's 4080 levels of performance. They maybe make a 7950 XTX that is close to a 4090 later?
 
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Why does it need to hit Nvidia at the 4090 market? Who the fuck drops $1600 for a video card other than a small minority? They are hitting right where it hurts. You know how many more 3060s they sold rather than 3090s?

Steam Survey Oct 2022...

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Only prob AMD has now is bad word of mouth. Rumors of bad software dating back like 10 yrs... THIS is what they need to overcome.
 
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Why does it need to hit Nvidia at the 4090 market? Who the fuck drops $1600 for a video card other than a small minority? They are hitting right where it hurts. You know how many more 3060s they sold rather than 3090s?

Steam Survey Oct 2022...

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Only prob AMD has now is bad word of mouth. Rumors of bad software dating back like 10 yrs... THIS is what they need to overcome.
This.

The 4090 is one of the first cards that is almost too much performance. The overwhelming majority of people don't need anywhere close to what it does. Hell, for most people, a 7900 XTX will be more than enough for years to come. Unless Nvidia has some amazing shit waiting in the wings, AMD is going to gobble up some market share this generation if the benchmarks are what they're projected to be.

I don't game in 4k and don't have any intentions on doing so for another 5+ years, but I do want 150 steady FPS at 1440p under maximum settings and I'm fairly confident that either flavor of the 7900 will get that done.

I'm genuinely glad I didn't jump and buy a 4090 because I can save $800+ and still get exactly what I want.
 
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