NVidia GeForce RTX 50x0 cards - 70% performance increase, but AI > you

Sludig

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Remember when ya'll were clowning on Brahma or someone for getting that insane Power Supply to future proof, he got us al in the end.
Jayrebb and this isn't really apples to apples. He already got his last laugh when the power requirements for 5090's came out. Ram, everyone quickly gets capped, so short of someone stocking multiple sets of extra's, I dont think anyone "future" proofed themselves into a great spot as far as ram.
 

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Jayrebb and this isn't really apples to apples. He already got his last laugh when the power requirements for 5090's came out. Ram, everyone quickly gets capped, so short of someone stocking multiple sets of extra's, I dont think anyone "future" proofed themselves into a great spot as far as ram.
At least as far as gaming is concerned, you are future proof if you have more than the consoles, because ain't no way Sony releasing a PS6 with ram being the way it is right now anyway and if they do they'll skimp heavily on it to cut costs so game developpers will have to deal with this shit, and they won't bother making "PC Only" games other than a few studios. By the time the new gen of console comes out pushing gaming tech requirements, RAM price will have dropped or everyone will be using the same amount as today because AI bros need their cyber waifu to tell them what kind of sandwich they should eat today or to generate more realistic child pornography of famous people's kids.

32gb will probably be fine for the next 3-4years, and 64gb will be more than needed for the same duration. Devs might just have to learn how to optimize again, maybe. Now 16gb, you might run into some issues, but no one needs 128gb or whatever unless you're doing high tech shit, which gaming isn't.
 
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Outside of a few games like probably flight sim, 32GB is fine for most people I agree.
Oh right I didn't think about that, there are indeed a few specific niche genres where it might be good too like flight/racing sims since these are pretty heavy on reqs and are pretty much PC only.
 

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Harware Unboxed recently did a "How much RAM do you need" video. Many games were playable with 8GB of system RAM, though most had very low 1% Lows. A few underperformed with 16GB, and everything they tested ran fine with 32GB. The biggest "gotcha" though is 8Gb VRAM, which increases the number of games that run poorly with 8/16GB of system RAM. Obviously YMMV with game selection and settings.
 

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looks my 76 tabs on chrome are taking up 16GB of ram just by itself, any real gamer has at least 128GB DDR5 to support tabs of... things...

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also i'm apparently an environmentalist according to task manager, cuz i'm all green baby
 
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Pyros

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So got my new PC today, went all the stages of grief of new PC shit, starting with waiting for the delivery guy to show up(will they actually show up, will they park in the street for 2mins then drive off and pretend I wasn't there) but he did show up, tried to jet out of there after ringing but I was quick to get out as he was getting back in his truck so he reluctantly had to do his job. Package was in a good state, still filmed it in case of, opened it while filming, everything looked nice. Clean up the room a bit while I move the old PC out, plug in everything and... black screen no signal. At least it powers up, but nothing.

Now spend the next 2 hours checking everything. At first I thought maybe the monitor had issues so tried with my TV using HDMI but same thing. Tried with the motherboard direct video/hdmi, same thing. Notice a red LED on, replug the old PC in to go google the motherboard manual because obviously all this new shit doesn't come with a manual, for some reason the manual is also the only file without a description on their stupid website so had to click on the "blank" thing to find it, anyway, the LEDs are actually troubleshooting LEDs, hadn't had one of these before but useful. Find out it's the video card, uh oh. Unplug it, check for any obvious issue on it but nothing, plug it back in, now it stalls on the RAM(?). Take out one stick of ram and magic it actually boots. Put the stick back in, still boots(guess it somehow got messed up when I reinstalled the GPU?), success.

Now in the slow ass process of reinstalling everything, starting with fucking dogshit windows I forgot how bad the base version is there's so much fucking garbage cluttering every bar and Edge popping up constantly for stuff it shouldn't be at all. Now I still need to install Afterburner or some shit to check temps and start running tests see if everything's fine.

I fucking hate upgrading, it's always a full day of fuckery, either assembling the PC or troubleshooting bullshit and reinstalling everything so it doesn't look like a massive piece of shit.
 
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Jayrebb and this isn't really apples to apples. He already got his last laugh when the power requirements for 5090's came out. Ram, everyone quickly gets capped, so short of someone stocking multiple sets of extra's, I dont think anyone "future" proofed themselves into a great spot as far as ram.

I actually did by chance, kind of glad I did. Next time I need a PC their prices better be where they should be. I can't make myself spend that much.
 

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I bought a 1250 power supply because it seemed like the sweet spot for the build I was making. 1000 was cutting it too close. Brahma was just stepping into the future before all you clowns.
 

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People saying "X ram/storage/PSU/whatever is all you need" reminds me of when I was a kid and salesmen would try to claim this PC at max specs would last you for 10 years

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Sludig

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I bought a 1250 power supply because it seemed like the sweet spot for the build I was making. 1000 was cutting it too close. Brahma was just stepping into the future before all you clowns.
Oh my god you and the others with no memory are the clowns. I've said it twice, was Jayrebb. It was quite the giant like 5+ page derail in the thread back when 3 series released. I even went and found it. 1300 Watts, still kinda ridiculous. NVidia GeForce RTX 30x0 cards
 
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Pyros

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Btw new Nvidia drivers came out with a new version of DLSS(4.5) which well, will look better supposedly. Also comes with even more fake frames gen for 50xx series if you're into that, all the way to 6x, which I'm sure looks like a bad acid trip but also some dynamic frame gen so it doesn't generate 6x all the time(it will when stuff will matter though since usually action parts is when the most intensive graphics happen with all sorts of particles, so it's whatever).

At the very least the AI donkeyshit Nvidia is running has some useful results for the plebs. Well that is assuming the new drivers don't crash like hell because they were coded with vibe devs too, guess it'll take a few days for people to figure it out.
 

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I bought a pre-built with a 5090 before all the RAM shakedown. Works as intended, though I did have to troubleshoot why it would just shut down under heavy GPU loads. Turned out to be a fan power cable was pinned under the motherboard power connector, making it just loose enough and killing power to the motherboard.
 

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It’s a shame no one can afford a 50xx+ going forward.
DLSS 4.5 works for any RTX card so anything 20xx and above, just the framegen is locked to 50xx cards. From what I reading from early reports though the new 4.5 DLSS is higher quality at the cost of performance, so it's basically not worth using on 20/30 series, but it can be fine for 40/50 series if you want more quality and you have some frames to spare.
 

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I'm running a 5800x3d, a 3080 with 10gb vram and 64gb of ram. Don't think I'll be upgrading anytime soon with prices these days, plus I still run everything I play just fine.
 

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I'm running a 5800x3d, a 3080 with 10gb vram and 64gb of ram. Don't think I'll be upgrading anytime soon with prices these days, plus I still run everything I play just fine.
Yeah I don’t see upgrading until I am forced to by component failures. I’m wondering if PC gaming is just going to die out due to cost. All for stupid fucking AI no one wants except corporations.