NVidia GeForce RTX 50x0 cards - 70% performance increase, but AI > you

Malakriss

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Useful for warranty purposes when your card incinerates itself.
 
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Mist

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Do I even want to bother signing up for the Nvidia lottery? These cards are bad and melt.
 
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Do I even want to bother signing up for the Nvidia lottery? These cards are bad and melt.
I mean options are free and not the worst thing to have. Worst comes to worst you just ignore the email when it comes through. I signed up for both just because. I remember during the 30XX signing up for some queue through Nvidia or EVGA but it was for a SKU they like never made any more of at all. People were posting their emails and sign up dates and everything, no one ever saw a single card come out.
 
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I had signed up for the Evga on two 3080s, one that was waterblocked. I got the emails like 4 and 6 months later.
 
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Brahma plugged in his 5090 pre-built and sent me an update:

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5070ti reviews are confirming what we already knew. The card is only worth picking up if you can get it for $750 msrp and if you’re not upgrading from the 40 series Nvidia or 7900 series AMD.

I’m hoping the AMD cards review well at a better price point.
 
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I bought a Starforge Navigator Elite (amd cpu and amd gpu) in September. No regrets. Building PC's is fun but at my age/income level I'd much rather pay a bit more for a high quality build.
I’m in the same boat as you are. I’m done with PC building. I bought the Voyager Elite version last October and couldn’t be any happier with it. They weren’t able to ship it at the given timeframe and they took off a few hundred dollars for my troubles.
 
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I have the opposite perspective. I've felt like PC building has only gotten better over time. When I built my first one 25 years ago it was nerve wracking but now it's so plug and play as long as you're not doing some custom cooling.

The research takes a little bit of time but I feel like ultimately there's only so many real options for a given budget and there's still some trustworthy enough resources to lean on.
 
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I have the opposite perspective. I've felt like PC building has only gotten better over time. When I built my first one 25 years ago it was nerve wracking but now it's so plug and play as long as you're not doing some custom cooling.

The research takes a little bit of time but I feel like ultimately there's only so many real options for a given budget and there's still some trustworthy enough resources to lean on.
To a certain degree its the paradox of choice for me; I used to accumulate parts over a period of time, and then when I had everything I would put it together. If I had a slight variation, that would OK because I often built multiple machines close together and that would just what I would use in machine number 2 for the 2nd rig/kid/kids over time. Now with all the shortages, you might go years before video cards/power supplies/memory is reasonable again, and by then I may have changed from an all-LED super tower to an mini -ITX small design (this is really what happened for my 9900K built I never made; also Zen2 released and killed Intel's advantage.) I have multiple ways I want build a system and multiple things I want do and changing my mind slows me down stops the build and these days I always seem to just need one more thing.

Also what I don't have as much of any more is time/energy. It felt like I used to work 12 hours, go to the gym, play with kid(s), and have time online. 20 years later it feels like I do much less in the same amount of time. The amount of responsibility I have and focus I require at work and at home is more as well. I also build far fewer PCs: Previously I would build 2+ machines a year; Now I build one every 3-5 years as the pace of innovation/performance increase has slowed down. I enjoy much more what I do with them than the creation of them themselves. I still love hardware but I would rather pay someone for the time I would spend building them and get that back to do other things, like not routing and tying back cables, which I always hated anyway.

Prebuilts always seemed to cut corners somewhere; and I still like the idea of choosing all my own hardware. Microcenter is a good compromise for me but I see how that doesn't work for some people.

Back to Graphics cards: What a weird generation this is. Let's see if AMD pricing and the actual cards can put this gen back on track a bit, after Jensen proves everyone's worst fears correct about monopolization/large market share correct.
 
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Back to Graphics cards: What a weird generation this is. Let's see if AMD pricing and the actual cards can put this gen back on track a bit, after Jensen proves everyone's worst fears correct about monopolization/large market share correct.
Nvidia now has the monopoly on the highest end gpus, but Nvidia shit the bed with the 5070 too. I won't be surprised if AMD is about to blow us away and dominate the market.
 
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A big part of the issue is that there is no node shrink this generation, so the only real gains will come from brute force via larger dies and higher power consumption (i.e. the 5090). This is in addition to the other recent factors, like AI cards and Apple/Cell CPUs being a more profitable use of wafers. NV will be pushing software features harder than ever this gen, but it also gives AMD a "free" gen to try to catch up on ray tracing and power consumption (their raster performance is on-par).
 
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Denamian

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Back to Graphics cards: What a weird generation this is. Let's see if AMD pricing and the actual cards can put this gen back on track a bit, after Jensen proves everyone's worst fears correct about monopolization/large market share correct.
If AMD can at least release an upper mid range card that is good value and actually fucking available at MRSP, that could be a good win for them.
 
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nvidia really does not give a fuck anymore about making GPUs, zotacs are shipping out with fewer cores than its supposed to lol

 
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I'm honestly waiting until they just say fuck it and nuke everything but the flagship card and let amd/intel have all the stuff below that. Unless for some reason their AI/Datacenter business crashes.