NVidia GeForce RTX 50x0 cards - 70% performance increase, but AI > you

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Summary:

This Digital Foundry video is a follow-up and apology regarding their previous coverage of Nvidia's DLSS 5. The team admits they posted their initial impressions too soon, before fully analyzing the technology with the rest of their team or gauging audience and developer reactions. The video addresses the heavy criticism, including harassment received by the team, and dives deeper into the technical and ethical implications of this new AI-driven rendering technology.

Key Discussion Points:

  • Artistic Control and Ethical Concerns (2:26 - 23:23): The team addresses concerns that DLSS 5 is an "AI filter" that tramples on developers' artistic vision. They clarify that all demos were signed off by the studios, but acknowledge that the dramatic changes, especially on faces, raise questions about maintaining the original intent. They discuss the implications for industry jobs if companies rely on generic AI models to improve lower-quality assets.

  • Technical Analysis (30:30 - 47:15): The team highlights that while the provided footage looks degraded, the temporal consistency of the demos in person was impressive. However, they note that the model seems to work on a 2D plane with limited inputs, leading to artifacts in reflections (like in Starfield) and sometimes losing fidelity to the original design. They discuss the high hardware requirements (multiple 5090 GPUs) and question if this post-processing approach is too heavy a tool for the visual quality achieved.

  • Future Outlook (48:00 - 55:26): The team believes that neural rendering is inevitable for the future of graphics, but successful implementation will require a mix of AI and human input, rather than a one-size-fits-all model. They discuss the potential for this tech to be modded into games and express hope for improved developer controls and optimization in future versions.
 

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Why don't you guys like our product that has put most of you out of a job while simultaneously making PC components unaffordable?
 
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Summary:

This Digital Foundry video is a follow-up and apology regarding their previous coverage of Nvidia's DLSS 5. The team admits they posted their initial impressions too soon, before fully analyzing the technology with the rest of their team or gauging audience and developer reactions. The video addresses the heavy criticism, including harassment received by the team, and dives deeper into the technical and ethical implications of this new AI-driven rendering technology.

Key Discussion Points:

  • Artistic Control and Ethical Concerns (2:26 - 23:23): The team addresses concerns that DLSS 5 is an "AI filter" that tramples on developers' artistic vision. They clarify that all demos were signed off by the studios, but acknowledge that the dramatic changes, especially on faces, raise questions about maintaining the original intent. They discuss the implications for industry jobs if companies rely on generic AI models to improve lower-quality assets.

  • Technical Analysis (30:30 - 47:15): The team highlights that while the provided footage looks degraded, the temporal consistency of the demos in person was impressive. However, they note that the model seems to work on a 2D plane with limited inputs, leading to artifacts in reflections (like in Starfield) and sometimes losing fidelity to the original design. They discuss the high hardware requirements (multiple 5090 GPUs) and question if this post-processing approach is too heavy a tool for the visual quality achieved.

  • Future Outlook (48:00 - 55:26): The team believes that neural rendering is inevitable for the future of graphics, but successful implementation will require a mix of AI and human input, rather than a one-size-fits-all model. They discuss the potential for this tech to be modded into games and express hope for improved developer controls and optimization in future versions.


That entire site is full of liberal cuck nuts.

This quote I saw on X says it best.

"They’re apologizing for not waiting to learn what the acceptable opinion to have is?"

Pandering fake asses - every single one of them over at DF.

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Artistic Control and Ethical Concerns (2:26 - 23:23): The team addresses concerns that DLSS 5 is an "AI filter" that tramples on developers' artistic vision. They clarify that all demos were signed off by the studios, but acknowledge that the dramatic changes, especially on faces, raise questions about maintaining the original intent. They discuss the implications for industry jobs if companies rely on generic AI models to improve lower-quality assets.

The only thing these Marxist faggot developers for * most * companies are afraid of is losing divisive Marxist messaging disguised as equality and having everything they do corrected to normal. Art my ass. Another hilarious staple of the Marxist developer guideline. It's a video game - it isn't an Artform. People buy it, play it, move on. Make it fun you will sell more, make it shit and it won't sell. But they aren't here to make money - they are funded as one arm of a media content distribution system to indoctrinate.
 
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They wouldn't review the Harry Potter game. That's all you ever needed to know about them to know they can't think for themselves.
 
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Involvement was them contacting executives and offering some money to use their product. But don't tell anyone else in the company to prevent leaks.
 

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Not impressed giving everyone Instagram filters for games seems like a huge step-back, then anything "forward" thinking.

And the hardware costs.. ya I'm sure everyone is gonna run out and grab a 2nd PC with a 5090 to do this.. Just think of poor NVIDIA pockets.

Crashed hardware market, for some stupid LLM to remove framing of a scene and just flat out make all the images have this weird blue effect, WTF.

Also notice they don't show "motion" in the comparison shots, or what motion there is, the back drop is really flat/dark areas, lighting objects are fucking gone, see the Requiem picture with Grace, too understand what I mean.
 
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This MSI PSU sets off a buzzer if your graphics card is about to melt, which is a darn good idea

Hey, remember Meltgate, in which 12VHPWR (and latterly, 12V-2x6) GPU power connectors were blamed for melting graphics cards in a horrifying fashion? MSI remembers, and as a result, two of its newest PSUs have been equipped with an upgraded version of its GPU Safeguard tech to keep an eye on the current levels being delivered to your card.

MSI says that not only will a software pop-up alert you to any power-related issues, but a hardware buzzer will merrily scream "your very expensive hardware is about to be ruined" if it detects anything going pear-shaped with the pins. Okay, it probably just buzzes.

GPU Safeguard+ is supported by MSI's MPG Ai 1600TS PCIE5 and MPG Ai1300TS PCIE5 power supplies, and works by interfacing between your graphics card and MSI Afterburner to form an "intelligent bridge" with your PSU.

If any abnormalities in the power delivery are detected, MSI says the system will instantly throttle consumption and provide the aforementioned warnings. It's also GPU agnostic, which means it should work on all graphics cards that make use of a 12V-2x6 connector, MSI or otherwise.

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This MSI PSU sets off a buzzer if your graphics card is about to melt, which is a darn good idea

Hey, remember Meltgate, in which 12VHPWR (and latterly, 12V-2x6) GPU power connectors were blamed for melting graphics cards in a horrifying fashion? MSI remembers, and as a result, two of its newest PSUs have been equipped with an upgraded version of its GPU Safeguard tech to keep an eye on the current levels being delivered to your card.

MSI says that not only will a software pop-up alert you to any power-related issues, but a hardware buzzer will merrily scream "your very expensive hardware is about to be ruined" if it detects anything going pear-shaped with the pins. Okay, it probably just buzzes.

GPU Safeguard+ is supported by MSI's MPG Ai 1600TS PCIE5 and MPG Ai1300TS PCIE5 power supplies, and works by interfacing between your graphics card and MSI Afterburner to form an "intelligent bridge" with your PSU.

If any abnormalities in the power delivery are detected, MSI says the system will instantly throttle consumption and provide the aforementioned warnings. It's also GPU agnostic, which means it should work on all graphics cards that make use of a 12V-2x6 connector, MSI or otherwise.

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time to just directly plug the gpu into the outlet, we're headed that way anyway, aren't we? Can't wait to see what the GPUs that plug into an oven outlet do.
 
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time to just directly plug the gpu into the outlet, we're headed that way anyway, aren't we? Can't wait to see what the GPUs that plug into an oven outlet do.
Plugging into an outlet won’t really solve anything for the home consumer thought. US household circuits only handle 1600w. Nobody is going to realistically split the home pc across two circuits in their homes.
 

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Plugging into an outlet won’t really solve anything for the home consumer thought. US household circuits only handle 1600w. Nobody is going to realistically split the home pc across two circuits in their homes.

Sure I would. Sure WE would!
 
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time to just directly plug the gpu into the outlet, we're headed that way anyway, aren't we? Can't wait to see what the GPUs that plug into an oven outlet do.
this is probably better, and safer, that the BS they are doing now. I want nothing to do with those connectors. I saw an article where one of the cables with the yellow color on the connector (to show if it's not plugged in totally) worked it's way loose over a year or so.