On becoming an electrician
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Does it appear sprayed on? On some exposed steel structures they use a spray on fire proofing that protects the steel from exposure and allows a little more fire retardation. It will make you sick when they spray it but is fine when dry. Probably should wear a mask when scraping it off just in case. Also if the building is old enough it could be Asbestos. Just because they say it's all been abated doesn't mean it has.
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My office until January or so, we are demoing over 800 lights and hanging some 600 or so. Rolling around extended at 30 feet fucking sucks but getting use to it. Should I get a Harness? Being extra careful etc but seems like a good idea due to extended length of time I am going to be using these. Gonna have to buy one myself and needs to be comfy so open to suggestions.
Harnesses are required in most commercial or industrial places I work, quite a few places make us tie off when using ladders over three rungs up. I've always questioned whether I want to be actually tied directly to a scissor lift if it was going down or not. If they don't require it, i wont wear one in a scissor lift. but if im using a boom lift, the hell with those mobile trebuchets im going to wear one.
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I have to wear a harness if there is no handrail containing me. There are two types of lanyards and what company you are working at depends on which one you use. One is a long lanyard where it is folded back on itself and sewn together so it comes apart as you fall. I think those are for roofing work and such in case you slip and don't slide all the way down eventually.
The other is the yoyo type. It has a round loaded deal that goes between your shoulders on your back connected to your harness. You fall straight down and it slowly lets out lanyard and slows. I've seen videos and it works but it looks like it would still be semi painful but better than falling straight to the ground.
If the yoyo type is required get with someone that will show you how it is connected to the harness because they have a special way it connects. There is a company near all the plants and refineries the companies buy from where I got both of mine and they know what is required for each site and the safety guy checks it before you do anything on site. Once done you never screw with it.
If you are in a posistion to actually fall and not slide down make sure you get it hooked up right and make sure you connect it to something solid in case you fall. There was a guy working on a piperack where I was taking measurements and he fell. Died. He had tied off to 3/4" EMT conduit and obviously did not hold.
It's a pretty big deal and I have seen new guys that have their yoyo attached so that if they fell they would end up upside down half way down hanging there. The doubles are so that you can attach and move to attach the other end without ever becoming unattached.
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The other is the yoyo type. It has a round loaded deal that goes between your shoulders on your back connected to your harness. You fall straight down and it slowly lets out lanyard and slows. I've seen videos and it works but it looks like it would still be semi painful but better than falling straight to the ground.
If the yoyo type is required get with someone that will show you how it is connected to the harness because they have a special way it connects. There is a company near all the plants and refineries the companies buy from where I got both of mine and they know what is required for each site and the safety guy checks it before you do anything on site. Once done you never screw with it.
If you are in a posistion to actually fall and not slide down make sure you get it hooked up right and make sure you connect it to something solid in case you fall. There was a guy working on a piperack where I was taking measurements and he fell. Died. He had tied off to 3/4" EMT conduit and obviously did not hold.
It's a pretty big deal and I have seen new guys that have their yoyo attached so that if they fell they would end up upside down half way down hanging there. The doubles are so that you can attach and move to attach the other end without ever becoming unattached.
Understanding the different types of safety Lanyards and their uses
By understanding the different types of safety lanyards, their classification, and their intended use, employers and workers can ensure that they select the appropriate kind of lanyard for their specific job requirements,
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I have to wear a harness if there is no handrail containing me. There are two types of lanyards and what company you are working at depends on which one you use. One is a long lanyard where it is folded back on itself and sewn together so it comes apart as you fall. I think those are for roofing work and such in case you slip and don't slide all the way down eventually.
The other is the yoyo type. It has a round loaded deal that goes between your shoulders on your back connected to your harness. You fall straight down and it slowly lets out lanyard and slows. I've seen videos and it works but it looks like it would still be semi painful but better than falling straight to the ground.
If the yoyo type is required get with someone that will show you how it is connected to the harness because they have a special way it connects. There is a company near all the plants and refineries the companies buy from where I got both of mine and they know what is required for each site and the safety guy checks it before you do anything on site. Once done you never screw with it.
If you are in a posistion to actually fall and not slide down make sure you get it hooked up right and make sure you connect it to something solid in case you fall. There was a guy working on a piperack where I was taking measurements and he fell. Died. He had tied off to 3/4" EMT conduit and obviously did not hold.
It's a pretty big deal and I have seen new guys that have their yoyo attached so that if they fell they would end up upside down half way down hanging there. The doubles are so that you can attach and move to attach the other end without ever becoming unattached.
Understanding the different types of safety Lanyards and their uses
By understanding the different types of safety lanyards, their classification, and their intended use, employers and workers can ensure that they select the appropriate kind of lanyard for their specific job requirements,
To be clear this is 100% optional, the lift has 4 tie off points specifically for harnesses so not worried about something being strong enough. Appreciate the info. Also sea legs are a thing I guess, solid ground feels weird as fuck after a full shift.
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If you buy one it's like food, it comes with an expiration date on it so you can see it. I guess the lanyards will rot over time. Like I said I am supposed to be tied off if there is no handrail to contain me. However because a lot of my work is related to the 3B's it's not always an option. Something broke down, something burned up, something blew up. Comes down to judgement call. I do know the best advice is never work alone and guessing that won't apply to you. The guy that normally holds the other end of the tape for me and is the same type of speciality draftsman his son got hired at Exxon and he ewnt off and got high and fell off a pipe rack. He had a harness on. Someone found him dangling there a few hours later. He got fired, then the company we worked for hired him and he flunked his drug test again.
So he got rehired at Exxon to be in charge of the air packs you need to breathe. Can't make this shit up.
I was going to say if it's not optinal your employer should pay for it. I've had hundreds or close to it of them. Ever time I have to go to the field for a new employer/contract work I get new ones and that includes steel toed boots which I normally give away to someone that needs new ones. I bet I've had more than 100 new hard hats over the years lol. Nothing screams new hire more than a brand new all white shiny hard hat.
Get it and get it adjusted and practice putting it on and off a few times before you have to in front of everyone else at work.
So he got rehired at Exxon to be in charge of the air packs you need to breathe. Can't make this shit up.
I was going to say if it's not optinal your employer should pay for it. I've had hundreds or close to it of them. Ever time I have to go to the field for a new employer/contract work I get new ones and that includes steel toed boots which I normally give away to someone that needs new ones. I bet I've had more than 100 new hard hats over the years lol. Nothing screams new hire more than a brand new all white shiny hard hat.
Get it and get it adjusted and practice putting it on and off a few times before you have to in front of everyone else at work.
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Your employer is required to provide all OSHA required safety equipment, I call extreme bullshit on you having to buy your own. That said, what are you going to strap yourself to?
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I mean...my boss is cool so he would buy it for me if I asked but since it is optional I figured I would take the hit.
Unless you meant what lift, then it is a variation(older version) of this one. New JLG ES3246 Electric Scissor Lift for Sale | Kirby-Smith
Also:
OSHA Classification: Scissor Lifts vs Aerial Lifts
- Scissor lifts are classified as mobile scaffolds, not aerial lifts under OSHA.
- This means different safety standards apply, especially regarding fall protection.
- If the guardrails are intact and meet OSHA height standards, no harness is needed.
- Guardrails alone are considered sufficient fall protection in most warehouse settings.
so if I understand that correctly it is optional.
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yeah I missed the optional part sorry I thought someone was pulling a fast one. When I started the field, we did have to provide our own PPE.
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Cool, then again I read:
OSHA Scissor Lift Requirements
Fall protection is required when operating a scissor lift as mandated by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA). Workers must comply with these regulations to ensure safety while working at heights. OSHA’s guidelines clearly state that workers must be tied-off the moment they step into the basket of a scissor lift. According to 29 CFR 1926.453(b)(v), workers in an aerial lift must wear a body belt and attach a lanyard to the boom or basket.This requirement has no exceptions or qualifiers. Regardless of the height or duration of time spent in the basket, workers must always be tied off when operating a scissor lift.
Employers are responsible for protecting their workers from falls and other workplace accidents. OSHA scissor lift harness requirements state that employers must provide and enforce the use of personal protective equipment (PPE), including harnesses, while operating lifts. Additionally, employers must train and certify their workers before allowing them to use scissor lifts on the job. Failure to comply with these requirements can result in costly OSHA fines and penalties.
One common question that arises is whether OSHA specifically requires a harness in a scissor lift. While OSHA’s standard 1926.451(g)(1) does not explicitly mandate safety harnesses in scissor lifts, other factors may necessitate their use. Contractor safety policies, local jurisdiction standards and additional guidelines may require safety harnesses in scissor lifts.
Furthermore, guardrails are required to prevent workers from falling. Employers should ensure that workers are trained to adhere to the following guidelines:
- Before starting work on a scissor lift, workers must check if a guardrail system is in place.
- Workers should only stand on the work platform and not on the guardrails.
- Keeping work within easy reach is crucial to avoid leaning away from the scissor lift, minimizing the risk of falls.
sooo, not optional? Then when you dive into Section 1926.451 it is optional?
How the fuck are people supposed to understand what to do without being a fucking lawyer? So dumb.
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Company I worked for in Vegas had full time safety staff so you could just ask. You should be able to ask any place that sells harness/lanyards. They should be up on the codes , and no they will not just tell you 'YES' to sell you a harness.
Also: KUDOS for looking so hard into it.
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I've been certified under train the trainer for scissor lifts. There are two different classifications for fall safety
Fall protection: This prevents a fall from happening - Think guard rails on the scissor lift
Fall arrest: This stops a fall that has begun - Your safety harness
So scissor lifts with guard rails allow you to be OHSA compliant without using a harness. Boom lifts and articulating booms might actually require fall arrest, but our company only uses scissor lifts so I can't 100% speak to that.
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