Noodleface
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I'm only in the 40s, but even in that shit tier you don't see DVa or Junkrat ults killing lots of people anymore. I know what you're saying, in that those ults are capable of that, but I think people get out of the way or shoot the tire more often than 3+ kills.
Mei and Reins ults are getting those multi kills paired with others.
Bastion is a good example.
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The one thing I enjoy about the shit tier I'm in is that I can play Mccree and not feel like I'm hurting my team by not allowing someone with better aim play him. Generally have pretty good contributions with him and I think at higher ranks I'd feel guilty because I know my aim isn't amazing.
But flashbangs on other character's ults is my favorite thing in the entire game. Especially all the Reapers that telegraph their ult like crazy.
But flashbangs on other character's ults is my favorite thing in the entire game. Especially all the Reapers that telegraph their ult like crazy.
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I think his nerf should be a combination of two. I think the animation cancel thing was needed because it isn't something that was intended, and is something that vastly differs high level/low level play.. so over all that is a fix.
It should have been either the Ult or Movement, but my friend has a theory that they are cutting back on the -lasting- ults to 6 seconds over all. Tbh, overall.. it will dampen Genji, but I think a solid Genji player with practice.. can still do Genji things.. it will just be less about double jumping in, to double jump wall run double jump in/out of fights. I think from a design perspective, it might ruin some maps too. Rare, and probably not as great anymore, but there use to be a cheese with only Genji on Nepal's Shrine. He was able to get on top of the middle spire, and sit there.. often times unnoticed but in full contest.
True, but in an essence.. those characters have a bit more counter play than say, Genji. Most all the characters can get a 3+ ult, but Genji could do it with more ez, given the circumstances.. his counter play is saving ults for that exact moment... which no other character and their 3 plus has that.. most ults are reactionary/combo to other catastrophic events.. but you have to tell a Lucio to wait until Dragon Blade comes out. I have seen all these characters do great ults, 3+ man kills, but when Genji gets it... its literally Anakin vs the Younglings.. its really bad.
It should have been either the Ult or Movement, but my friend has a theory that they are cutting back on the -lasting- ults to 6 seconds over all. Tbh, overall.. it will dampen Genji, but I think a solid Genji player with practice.. can still do Genji things.. it will just be less about double jumping in, to double jump wall run double jump in/out of fights. I think from a design perspective, it might ruin some maps too. Rare, and probably not as great anymore, but there use to be a cheese with only Genji on Nepal's Shrine. He was able to get on top of the middle spire, and sit there.. often times unnoticed but in full contest.
True, but in an essence.. those characters have a bit more counter play than say, Genji. Most all the characters can get a 3+ ult, but Genji could do it with more ez, given the circumstances.. his counter play is saving ults for that exact moment... which no other character and their 3 plus has that.. most ults are reactionary/combo to other catastrophic events.. but you have to tell a Lucio to wait until Dragon Blade comes out. I have seen all these characters do great ults, 3+ man kills, but when Genji gets it... its literally Anakin vs the Younglings.. its really bad.
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Genji can still do mass damage in 6 seconds, cutting it from 8->6 is fine.
Still he only has 200HP and people acted like an invincible guy was flying around
Still he only has 200HP and people acted like an invincible guy was flying around
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Yeah, but you can also pin/hook/stun/boop/sleep Reaper... There is a reason most Genji mains are high in the competitive ranking from a solo queue perspective.
Sure you can hook a Genji, but also he can deflect and cancel right out of a hook. Let alone being mobile against it while in ult.
If you sleep him, he still has 3 seconds to do work.. if he some how manages to get a full sleep, which is rare haha.
If you boop him.. he is still in dragon blade range.
If you stun him, its only some .7 seconds, that is still enough time to do everything in his kit.
You can pin him, but pinning someone that is in the air might not be the easiest thing.
Right now it, as it stands.. you have to re-actively ult against him That isn't the same w/ Rein or D.va, you can LoS or move from any and all other ults, while Genji just chases you down w/o any real repercussion.
He IS the solo queue stomper.
It's something that will help separate good genji's from the bad. I mean, when you have a Genji who is high SR, but is shit.. just gets out of low elo because he is against a team that can't hit him.. I've seen it first hand.
I will agree that it ruins a bit of his flow and causing people to relearn, but all its going to do is change his play style from an aggressive assassin to an agitation, similar to that of Tracer.. the class he fits in. More punishment for being with bad positioning.
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I've never pulled off a deflect right out of a hook.
I can only land a dash out of a hook like 20% of the time. The timing is way too wonky at 20Hz
I can only land a dash out of a hook like 20% of the time. The timing is way too wonky at 20Hz
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and I've been complaining a lot but it's fine, I'll probably still play him a bunch but I'm also working on Tracer. Genji was such a unique playstyle that I felt he could fit into any comp but with the nerfs I'm not sure.
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True, that you can pick a Winston and body him.. but that isn't the issue. He is most definitely killable, I don't think that's the real issue. Even if you have a Winston, he can still freely get kills before the Winston stops him completely. You can easily kite a Winston, its a team game.. so it'll hardly be a 1v1, though Winston should be focusing.
Like I said, doing one or the other might have been more solid, atleast from teh communities perspective.. but the whole movement nerf.. will not do much but change his style to a more static style of play. He will still be doing the one thing that makes him the most scariest.. Manage to get behind your team, throw surikens and build ult.. if left unkept, he will pop ult and clean house while the enemy team pushes the front. That doesn't change, but the rate at which he can hop and skip inside of a team, and create chaos is dampened. He has to be more melodic in his decisions, and punished harder for a misstep.
As far as 20hz, and timing.. its 60 now, and I see it all the time prior.. so idk XD I've only had the issue on 20 with some small things, like timings like trying to hit a Genji with an arrow while his reflect animation is still going and getting killed when I have clearly ran past the wall, to get rubber band back to a death point.
I can promise you, Genji will still be annoying.. Still be pretty strong disruption and provider of chaos.. it's just he won't be able to solely decimate teams by himself, he'll have to be more cohesive with his team.
Like I said, doing one or the other might have been more solid, atleast from teh communities perspective.. but the whole movement nerf.. will not do much but change his style to a more static style of play. He will still be doing the one thing that makes him the most scariest.. Manage to get behind your team, throw surikens and build ult.. if left unkept, he will pop ult and clean house while the enemy team pushes the front. That doesn't change, but the rate at which he can hop and skip inside of a team, and create chaos is dampened. He has to be more melodic in his decisions, and punished harder for a misstep.
As far as 20hz, and timing.. its 60 now, and I see it all the time prior.. so idk XD I've only had the issue on 20 with some small things, like timings like trying to hit a Genji with an arrow while his reflect animation is still going and getting killed when I have clearly ran past the wall, to get rubber band back to a death point.
I can promise you, Genji will still be annoying.. Still be pretty strong disruption and provider of chaos.. it's just he won't be able to solely decimate teams by himself, he'll have to be more cohesive with his team.
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I can't tell if Moonmoon is actually good, but I find his Twitch banter hilarious.
Kinda along the lines of Bro Team twitch streams. (Bro Team doesn't actually yell in his streams like he does in his videos)
Tim the tattoo guy is my least favoritescreamer streamer.
Kinda along the lines of Bro Team twitch streams. (Bro Team doesn't actually yell in his streams like he does in his videos)
Tim the tattoo guy is my least favorite
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MoonMoon is very good, but he's more of an solo guy. He plays with other good people but I mean he doesn't coordinate a lot, he just knows what to do and does it well. He's pretty hilarious, especially when he gets shit on and just goes "DRRPppptpttt". Watching him on PTR was great, he kept sitting on Reapers after killing them with Roadhog. His DVA is pretty awesome too.