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skribble

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Ya I placed 2700 then dropped to 2400. I refuse to play at nights now or weekend nights, all the shitters and ragers are on then.

I do agree, as a soldier main it was super annoying when mercy's would use rez to avoid dying (makes them invul for a few seconds like those who get ressed) then by time she was free game i had a whole enemy team around me ressed.

So yeah the changes are good but its almost guarantee like if i I kill pharah that mercy will res so i have to kill pharah twice now! :mad:

As a mainly soldier player I found the lack of DVA shields pretty refreshing not to have to play into, think soldiers come out pretty well this patch
 

Araxen

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Moonmoon changed his BattleTag to TheRiddler and autolocks Mercy. When a Mercy main asks to Mercy he makes them answer a riddle before he'll switch. He got sick of Mercy mains begging him to switch since the patch went live.


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He got one really triggered.

 
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Araxen

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this game needs a solo-queue only queue. Almost nothing triggers me faster in this game than being added to a shitty 5 stack that refuses to communicate or god forbid pick a balanced or relevant comp. It's especially worse when that happens and the other team is a six stack that actually works as a team.

Somehow I had a team of unranked peeps in QP beat the 4 stack of Plats on the other team. I was pretty surprised we pulled it off. Usually, the team will get steamrolled.

I agree the game needs a solo queue for Competitive, but Blizzard thinks their matchmaker is infallible.
 

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If you can't google the riddle in less than 15 seconds, how are you playing high rank OW?
 

Ravishing

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Somehow I had a team of unranked peeps in QP beat the 4 stack of Plats on the other team. I was pretty surprised we pulled it off. Usually, the team will get steamrolled.

I agree the game needs a solo queue for Competitive, but Blizzard thinks their matchmaker is infallible.

Big problem I have is Queue times reach MINUTES long at even mid-plat. I don't know why the matchmaker is so damn slow, but I'm guessing it would be worse if it was solos only... maybe not though... if all the premades were forced to solo maybe it'd actually be faster.
 

Araxen

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If you can't google the riddle in less than 15 seconds, how are you playing high rank OW?

Mercy's earn an absurd amount of SR even before this week changes. There are a lot of Mercy's in masters and GM with negative win rates. I played a few matches yesterday and losses were 15 sr, wins 30+ SR.
 
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what you get SR based on class? you sure cause im a mercy main and dont get shit... i think its based on your score vs the average of the other team no?

btw its the same thing for solo vs team... its awful when my 4 stack gets 2 shitters who insta lock dps and dont join team chat
 

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Just picked up the game on a whim and I absolutely love it. Been really liking the Soldier and bastion the robot dude.

My question after getting play of the game 3 times in a row some butthurt guy I killed said I was being reported for camping. It's surely not illegal to lock down bastion and defend the point or is he just part of the infamous butthurt Overwatch player brigade my comp buddies keep telling me about?

Haha
 

Araxen

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He's just butthurt. There is no such thing as camping that you can get in trouble for.
 
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Adebisi

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Moonmoon changed his BattleTag to TheRiddler and autolocks Mercy. When a Mercy main asks to Mercy he makes them answer a riddle before he'll switch. He got sick of Mercy mains begging him to switch since the patch went live.


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He got one really triggered.


Holeee shit

People actually "main" a hero? To the point where they'll piss their pants if they don't get their main?

AND MERCY MAIN AT THAT

"I'm somewhat of an expert on Mercy. It's my spesh-eee-alitty"




KEK'L
 

skribble

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what you get SR based on class? you sure cause im a mercy main and dont get shit... i think its based on your score vs the average of the other team no?

btw its the same thing for solo vs team... its awful when my 4 stack gets 2 shitters who insta lock dps and dont join team chat

You get SR based on a combination of things such as your hidden MMR (where the system thinks you should be), enemy team SR, and a small bonus based on how you performed relative to your class in that particular game compared with the stats they have collected based on all other games played. The same way wow arena worked but imagine you got some slight mmr boosts/losses depending on how you performed relative to all the other warriors the system had collected data on throughout the various rankings, for example. Also just to point out that this is NOT related to medals in any way whatsoever.
They also mentioned in the past that the system takes into account where you are 'flexing' (i.e. it should know if you have played that hero a lot or are filling), but Ive not been able to to find anything substantiative on that.

What it all means is that since its not a flat +20 per win / loss, loads of people have come up with conspiracy theories and ideas about gaming the system. People have mentioned torb/sombra one tricks climbing with negative win rates etc, but its all really hard to assess because its all a bunch of speculation rather than actual statistics over a long period of time.

What it means in terms of Mercy, is that because SR win/loss is based somewhat on their performance stats, and they have completely changed Mercy and have no stats for what an average player is currently, that SR gains are likely inflated due to her higher performance with increased number of rezzes, healing done due to ultimate giving mercy group healing abilities, and probably her overall change in playstyle leading to more healing done.

What people don't know is how quickly the system adjusts. From my own personal experience when they changed zen ages ago (i cant even remember what they changed now but he was buffed), I got some nice SR boosts for a few days until the system figured out what an average zenyetta player was, and then it was back to normal.

Also, from my own anecdotal experience, the system seems quite accurate in placing you into whatever 'bracket' it thinks you belong. For me, accross all my smurfs and friends accounts, this is diamond. I'd always place around this mark, I would find climbing much harder and flatter at this rating, easier and more SR gained at lower ratings etc. accross all the accounts.
 
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Araxen

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Before the patch, the big SR gains were from hiding and getting a 4+ person rez. If you weren't doing that then your SR gains would be pretty normal.
 

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I've noticed two really odd choices most / all the korean teams seem to make:

The first is kind of ignoring Pharah and hoping she goes away. They will run without Mcree or 76 and just kind of try to fight in small rooms. It never seems to work.

The other is running zen against Sombra. The zen is just free food even without EMP. I don't get it.
 

Tenks

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Pharah is actually a pretty low threat if you play around her properly. Even NA teams don't require hitscan to effectively counter her. This may change a bit with the D'Va nerf / Mercy buff but as long as you don't stand out in the open in the middle of the field Pharah can't do jack shit. Don't tell that to everyone in platinum who thinks Pharah requires a hardcounter response, though.
 

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Counters are required in plat and lower because teams don't work together as a team. Overwatch is a single player game in which the outcome is influenced by five other idiots who want to ruin your fun.
 

Araxen

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The new patch put on PTR today gets rid of Ultimate refunds. As soon as you hit Q it's gone now.

GENERAL UPDATES

General

  • Ultimate charge is now immediately expended when a hero’s Ultimate ability is activated, instead of being depleted over a short period of time


HERO UPDATES

D.Va
  • Boosters
  • Players now have the option to now hold down the boost button, rather than using the default toggle method. Releasing the button will end the ability. The Hold Boosters option can be found under the “Controls” tab in the “Options” menu, then select D.Va from the dropdown menu


USER INTERFACE

Assault Maps
  • A team-colored high-water mark will now appear in the progress bar until the attacking team has overtaken the defending team’s progress
    When capturing an objective, the progress bar is now broken into three segments. When filled, each segment will trigger an animation and audio cue
    The number of defenders currently on the objective will now be displayed with the attacker count, just below the progress bar


Spectating
  • Team colors are now visible in the capture point progress bar on Assault, Escort, and Assault/Escort maps
 
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skribble

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Community in this game is legit awful. Every single game tonight had at least 1-2 people complaining non-stop the whole way through. And the passive aggressiveness over voicechat, oh boy.

Apart from the terrible community, people's picks genuinely blow my mind. Like picking reaper into symettra/torb and on a chokepoint map where its basically impossible for you to have any sort of impact. I watched this reaper 3 times just try to run in, and die almost immediately. At what point does your own self-awareness kick in to say 'hey this is a fucking awful choice'. I also have a special place of hate in my heart for the 'ok dps you suck, change and let me dps' people, like your fucking amazing 2100 hardstuck gold for 5 season dps mcree (this actually happened) is suddenly going to overcome all the odds and carry us to plat. Also, 'soldier kill pharah plz'.

Its really really hard to summon the will to win when you have team mates who constantly talk shit, grief you, and make awful decisions and picks. I feel sorry for people who are legit stuck in gold because even when im try harding on my smurf its still a battle of getting my stupid team not to tilt after 2 minutes and not trickle feed all game and then rage pick bastion/widow/hanzo. Ugh.
 

Araxen

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When a team works together is where the game really shines. Even in losses I still feel like I've had a ton of fun in very competitive games. The current attitude of "it's just for fun" instead of trying to win is killing the game. This season hasn't been so bad for me in Silver. People are trying to come up with team compositions to win, but if I get a string of offensive torb, symm, bastion and they suck is where I lose my will to play. I just need to learn not to get so tilted in this game.
 
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