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Vorph

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Archmage or something? got a link?
Here's one with almost the same exact tree as me, somewhat similar gear as well.

Another with much different tree, but I still don't see a source of lightning damage:

I did see a couple that have lightning dmg to attacks on their ring, and a couple more that use Lightning Attunement like I do. Starting to think that there's just a bunch of tards out there who just copied a gem setup without ever reading how they work. Edit: loaded those two above into PoB and neither one has any lightning damage on Repulsion, so unless there's some way to cheat the system it's not going to spawn any LLs.

I can't really fit lightning damage in anywhere without sacrificing something else much more important, so I guess just using Attunement will have to do. It was just the best place to put Culling Strike. I could give up Magnify Area or Ritualistic Curse, but I kind of like having a really big AOE on Blasphemy.
 
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mkopec

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So am I tripping or something? Looking at a build guide and in game and its not matching up...Can you guys check and see if these noes are on the tree in game? they are off the Druid start.

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they are still there on Mobalytics build guide for 0.5.2

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One is Anger management and other is comradery.


Edit: Oh, never mind, those are exclusive passives when you spec into the Oracle. Didnt even know that was a thing. Cannot see them otherwise. Man I thought I was tripping there for a sec or got stealth nerfed, lol.
 
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Fogel

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So am I tripping or something? Looking at a build guide and in game and its not matching up...Can you guys check and see if these noes are on the tree in game? they are off the Druid start.

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they are still there on Mobalytics build guide for 0.5.2

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One is Anger management and other is comradery.

Need the druid ascendancy that lets you see the hidden nodes
 

Fyff

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Here's one with almost the same exact tree as me, somewhat similar gear as well.

Another with much different tree, but I still don't see a source of lightning damage:

I did see a couple that have lightning dmg to attacks on their ring, and a couple more that use Lightning Attunement like I do. Starting to think that there's just a bunch of tards out there who just copied a gem setup without ever reading how they work. Edit: loaded those two above into PoB and neither one has any lightning damage on Repulsion, so unless there's some way to cheat the system it's not going to spawn any LLs.

I can't really fit lightning damage in anywhere without sacrificing something else much more important, so I guess just using Attunement will have to do. It was just the best place to put Culling Strike. I could give up Magnify Area or Ritualistic Curse, but I kind of like having a really big AOE on Blasphemy.
Storm Mage plus Lightning Infusions gets you the living lightning trigger?
 

Caliane

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Storm Mage plus Lightning Infusions gets you the living lightning trigger?
They are Djinn, not stormweavers.

neither have any "gain % damage as extra lightning damage".


neither have weapon swaps set up..


yeah. opening up in pob. don't see any hidden sources of lit damage for repulsion wave.
 

Vorph

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Anyone happen to know if you can still use a perfect jeweler orb on the skill granted by a weapon that's already been corrupted?

Edit: nm, answer to that is no, you cannot. Oh well, I didn't really need Cool Headed anyway when I already have instant ignite removal from the Amanamu's Gaze in my helmet.
 
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Penance

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Anyone happen to know if you can still use a perfect jeweler orb on the skill granted by a weapon that's already been corrupted?

Edit: nm, answer to that is no, you cannot. Oh well, I didn't really need Cool Headed anyway when I already have instant ignite removal from the Amanamu's Gaze in my helmet.
I thought the currency to upgrade skills offered by items was different then the jeweler orbs?
 

Vorph

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They are Djinn, not stormweavers.

neither have any "gain % damage as extra lightning damage".


neither have weapon swaps set up..


yeah. opening up in pob. don't see any hidden sources of lit damage for repulsion wave.
Yeah, I think it just comes down to people don't know what they're doing. I kind of realized that after I saw people taking the node that gives bleed immunity during Archon even though they already have CI and other similar blunders.

I thought the currency to upgrade skills offered by items was different then the jeweler orbs?
Either one works but if you just want 5 sockets and don't care about raising the skill to 20 you can use a perfect jeweler and save yourself the ~34 div. Works great on purity of lightning which only gains +1 res going from 19 to 20 anyway. Just sucks when you're buying a sceptre and the person was too cheap to use a perfect jeweler orb and the first (zero-risk) vaal arcanist infuser on it before trying to vaal the second socket.
 
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Vorph

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Another random question I can't seem to find the answer to anywhere:

I'm pretty sure command skills don't count as a "damaging skill" for purposes of triggering Ruzhan's Zealotry. I'm guessing that Repulsion triggered with Blasphemy also does not, since I'm not actually 'casting' it myself. The only time I actually see Ruzhan attack is when I interact with something like a ritual or a rune stone, oddly enough. Don't know how that counts as "damaging" but apparently it does... not that it does anything since there's nothing to actually hit.

So, is there any actual point to putting the point into Ruzhan if you don't use any non-command skills (like Frost Bomb, which I dropped because exposure is pointless when almost all the damage is pure phys+chaos from Kelari)? I already took the point out of Ruzhan's Trap to get 20% ES instead, and I don't really use the brand either since I don't have a problem keeping ~100% archon uptime without it.
 
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Another random question I can't seem to find the answer to anywhere:

I'm pretty sure command skills don't count as a "damaging skill" for purposes of triggering Ruzhan's Zealotry. I'm guessing that Repulsion triggered with Blasphemy also does not, since I'm not actually 'casting' it myself. The only time I actually see Ruzhan attack is when I interact with something like a ritual or a rune stone, oddly enough. Don't know how that counts as a "damaging attack" but apparently it does... not that it does anything since there's nothing to actually hit.

So, is there any actual point to putting the point into Ruzhan if you don't use any non-command skills (like Frost Bomb, which I dropped because exposure is pointless when almost all the damage is pure phys from Kelari)? I already took the point out of Ruzhan's Trap to get 20% ES instead, and I don't really use the brand either since I don't have a problem keeping ~100% archon uptime without it.
If you don't have the trap it's not super useful no. The main command skill can be used to spam to get Archon procs/stack Puppet, but you can do that with an Arsonist too. The passive skill is more for non minion djinns to get extra dmg/exposure.

Best is to either replace it with Navira for the ES recharge start command, or to get the Time Lost jewel radius stuff(obviously you want good time lost jewels for that). I dropped it for the staff+focus node to fuck around with the crow RF staff but it's not particularly good I just wanted to check it out.
 

Vorph

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If you don't have the trap it's not super useful no. The main command skill can be used to spam to get Archon procs/stack Puppet, but you can do that with an Arsonist too. The passive skill is more for non minion djinns to get extra dmg/exposure.

Best is to either replace it with Navira for the ES recharge start command, or to get the Time Lost jewel radius stuff(obviously you want good time lost jewels for that). I dropped it for the staff+focus node to fuck around with the crow RF staff but it's not particularly good I just wanted to check it out.

That's what I thought. I am using Kelari's Deception, Navira's Well, and the time-lost radius since I have a really good one + From Nothing so the radius gets me 10 extra notables with 11% minion crit bonus and 9% minion crit chance each. Last two points are in Ruzhan and the 20% ES small node, so if I dropped Ruzhan about the only thing I could take is Fourth Teaching for the -1 start of recharge and 40% more recharge on low ES. Mostly redundant when you have Navira's Well and 85% increased ES recharge on gear, but it's better than a node that does nothing at all I guess.
 

Caliane

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Yeah, I think it just comes down to people don't know what they're doing. I kind of realized that after I saw people taking the node that gives bleed immunity during Archon even though they already have CI and other similar blunders.
if it was just one person, I would write it off as someone recently changed their weapon or weapons runesocket. and lost the gained as lightning.
multiple people is a strange coincidence though.
 

TheBeagle

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I've lost to the Queen of the Mists 6 times in a row in ritual. I can beat every other boss in the game no problem, but this fucking bitch I can't figure out. I'm getting knocked down, stunned, poisoned, just bullshit. 11K ES and CI. I should be able to unspec those points on the ritual atlas tree. Stupid that I can't
 

Fogel

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Enjoying the grand expeditions to break up grinding maps. One expedition has tons of strong boxes and prints if you get plenty of researches. The vaal expedition is rippy as hell but in a masochistic way if you blow up too many of the beacons that buff monsters. Just got a unique one that gave me an 8 slot remnant that had a perfect flux for reward which currently sells for 33 div. Logbooks drop like candy if you target the rare markers in the mini expeditions, skip the chests and shitty rune remnants.
 

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if it was just one person, I would write it off as someone recently changed their weapon or weapons runesocket. and lost the gained as lightning.
multiple people is a strange coincidence though.
People follow guides and do things copy paste and don't understand it. They then miss little things and end up wasting supports like that. Happens in PoE1 as well and you can see the posts "Why doesn't my build do XX like it's supposed to?!?!" and they're missing some small but fundamental piece they overlooked because they didn't understand.
 
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mkopec

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Problem is the fundamentals are pretty hard to understand. There are so many additions and multipliers, gained as, increased, adds, more, global multipliers...etc....etc... Its hard to keep track of whats what and truly understand it all and how it all interacts. Then there is the hidden shit that they dont even spell out like lightning debuff for example. This is why build guides are still so popular in both games. Let someone else math it all out and test it thats got the time to do so. Understanding comes with time and how long you interact with the game.

What would truly help is a comprehensive battle log, but they wont ever add one. The encounters are so short and hectic in this game you dont even have time to hover over the buffs and debuffs to see WTF is going on and why.
 
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TheBeagle

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Enjoying the grand expeditions to break up grinding maps. One expedition has tons of strong boxes and prints if you get plenty of researches. The vaal expedition is rippy as hell but in a masochistic way if you blow up too many of the beacons that buff monsters. Just got a unique one that gave me an 8 slot remnant that had a perfect flux for reward which currently sells for 33 div. Logbooks drop like candy if you target the rare markers in the mini expeditions, skip the chests and shitty rune remnants.
Ya, the cat's out of the bag how to get logbooks to drop. In between getting boofed by that bitch in Ritual I've farmed up a dozen or so grand mirrors. Going to wait and see what happens when/if they nerf the deli strat which will probably make it harder to get them afterward. Gonna try to get some logbooks now, decent chance they get buffed.
 

Fogel

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Ya, the cat's out of the bag how to get logbooks to drop. In between getting boofed by that bitch in Ritual I've farmed up a dozen or so grand mirrors. Going to wait and see what happens when/if they nerf the deli strat which will probably make it harder to get them afterward. Gonna try to get some logbooks now, decent chance they get buffed.
Make sure you run Jado when you start doing grand expeditions, specifically his one perk that rerolls the verisium remnants.