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mkopec

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Problem with life and es is that with the es tree nodes it gives you miltiplicative values of your flat. So every flat you add to your build it just ramps it into oblivion. With life you just get flat and that's it. There is not one node or wheel that multiplies this value on the tree. And ontop of it all if you go ci you never have to worry about chaos dmg and that is the most expensive rezz to cap.

But they already said they will not add life nodes to tree. And they are being super stubborn.

As to the nerfing of those supports, it's fucking stupid to rely on a chase item or items, if you get them both, that literally doubles your overall dps.
 
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mkopec said:
As to the nerfing of those supports, it's fucking stupid to rely on a chase item or items, if you get them both, that literally doubles your overall dps.
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Is this a reason to nerf them or what are you arguing here? That you shouldn't follow a build that they are mandatory in? They are somewhat chase items (garukhan more than rakiata with the way prices were this league by miles) that definitely aren't mandatory, if that's the route you're going (unless you follow some atrocious build maybe?). I was alch/exalt/vaaling t15s and going for a while before I could afford my garukhans, and all my rakiata flow did was let me swap a couple (very few) points on my tree from pen into survivability nodes/different pathing. It made virtually no noticeable difference in my damage. I followed along on Fubgun's ice shot deadeye, so maybe for some other build rakiata makes a ridiculous difference, I dunno.

When I put on my headhunter and killed a couple rare mobs in a map my tooltip would go from 80k to 300k and my survivability usually tripled too once I got HH stacked up a little, too... Guess we should delete that from the game like I said, since it's a chase item and stupid that it can quadruple your dps and 3x+ your survivability, after all... Mageblood is probably even worse, although I haven't used it in poe2 but the fact that they go for 1k-3k divs when HH was 200 and garukhan was 450-550 means it's probably even more busted than either of those?
 
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Problem with those supports is they are SUPPORTS. It's not a standalone item like the HH or the other chase items you can blend into any build. Why is there TWO fucking lineage supports out of like 100 or so that basically double your dps? Why did they nerf the other lineage supports like the reload one for xbows while letting these two slide? Why isn't there a support that gives phys skills or non crit builds double dmg? See the problem here? Or are you just dense?

HH you can blend into any build, these supports you cannot. And no one is saying to delete them either.
 
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zombiewizardhawk said:
???

Is this a reason to nerf them or what are you arguing here? That you shouldn't follow a build that they are mandatory in? They are somewhat chase items (garukhan more than rakiata with the way prices were this league by miles) that definitely aren't mandatory, if that's the route you're going (unless you follow some atrocious build maybe?). I was alch/exalt/vaaling t15s and going for a while before I could afford my garukhans, and all my rakiata flow did was let me swap a couple (very few) points on my tree from pen into survivability nodes/different pathing. It made virtually no noticeable difference in my damage. I followed along on Fubgun's ice shot deadeye, so maybe for some other build rakiata makes a ridiculous difference, I dunno.

When I put on my headhunter and killed a couple rare mobs in a map my tooltip would go from 80k to 300k and my survivability usually tripled too once I got HH stacked up a little, too... Guess we should delete that from the game like I said, since it's a chase item and stupid that it can quadruple your dps and 3x+ your survivability, after all... Mageblood is probably even worse, although I haven't used it in poe2 but the fact that they go for 1k-3k divs when HH was 200 and garukhan was 450-550 means it's probably even more busted than either of those?
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Rakiata's does more than replace penetration. Penetration can only bring a mob to 0. Rakiata's inverts it to negative. So a 50% more multiplier from penetration is a 100% more multiplier from rakiata. They could nerf it by half and it'd still be better than all other supports than maybe garukhans. Meanwhile they went ahead and nerfed other supports in favor of it. They could nerf it and buff all other supports and it'd still be in the top 3 of supports.
 
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Fogel said:
Rakiata's does more than replace penetration. Penetration can only bring a mob to 0. Rakiata's inverts it to negative. So a 50% more multiplier from penetration is a 100% more multiplier from rakiata. They could nerf it by half and it'd still be better than all other supports than maybe garukhans. Meanwhile they went ahead and nerfed other supports in favor of it. They could nerf it and buff all other supports and it'd still be in the top 3 of supports.
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Like I said, I put a rakiata into my build and barely noticed any change at all in my damage, maybe there are some other builds that it is just absurd for. If rakiata is so absolutely godlike and amazing, why does it only go for 100divs when garukhans and like 4 other lineage are all going for 500+?

As far as them nerfing other supports (or anything else), GGG has always, for 15 years or whatever it's been now, nerfed stupid shit that didn't need to be nerfed while leaving some other stuff alone. Expecting that to change now is silly.

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Problem with those supports is they are SUPPORTS. It's not a standalone item like the HH or the other chase items you can blend into any build. Why is there TWO fucking lineage supports out of like 100 or so that basically double your dps? Why did they nerf the other lineage supports like the reload one for xbows while letting these two slide? Why isn't there a support that gives phys skills or non crit builds double dmg? See the problem here? Or are you just dense?

HH you can blend into any build, these supports you cannot. And no one is saying to delete them either.
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Ah, ok. So since you socket it on a different slot, it is not allowed to be a chase item. Why can't I get a +10 skills bow like I can get a +10 skills wand? Why can spell players get +6 on an amulet but I can't get +6 proj? Why can minion players get +5 or +6 if they can make it to 6 too? Why was chat full of people assuring me that a 10div minion build could steamroll endgame this league but my bow build required 1000++divs to steamroll endgame stuff? Why do you think everything in the game has to be dogshit-tier trash? Because you're one of the 4 people in the world who wants the game to go back to being a slog-fest pile of shit that nobody enjoys?
 
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Buff bosses, add ubers. Its an ARPG, you're supposed to be able to grind out overpowered gear and blast the faces off everything. Fuck nerfing anything, league is fun as fuck.
 
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