You've talked about Lightning warp builds in the past, and lo and behold Palsteron has a vid about one he made. Maybe you recently referenced that and I forgot? Ah, whatever, here's a link:
I watched a bit of it, and it looks interesting. Though I believe he has a quite a bit of expensive and specialized gear to make it work, but maybe that could be massaged to make it easier to get going? Dunno, you'll surely have a better take on it than me.
I'm not going to say disingenuous, he's upfront about what the build is for. But even still, this feels wrong. Palsteron seems to do this a lot. Look, I made a "build", and then severely restricted its content viability and now it's a Real Build.
As for Lightning Warp itself, I'm not sure this is a Lightning Warp build. It's a Crystallized Omniscience and Inpulsa build. The Lightning Warp certainly helps his clear speed, but near as I can tell, he's not actually scaling it in any new way. Just a ton of cast speed and reduced duration. Requiring the helm enchant is what I was hoping to be free of.
Lol there’s gonna be so many builds going poof after omniscience gets the nerf hammer next league. I will personally put a headhunter in the guild bank if they leave that shit untouched.
I just hope in the frenzy of fixes they somehow leave ashes untouched. It’s technically possible since it’s not really build enabling per se, it’s just a really really good general purpose amulet that frees up pressure in a lot of slots .
Lol there’s gonna be so many builds going poof after omniscience gets the nerf hammer next league. I will personally put a headhunter in the guild bank if they leave that shit untouched.
I just hope in the frenzy of fixes they somehow leave ashes untouched. It’s technically possible since it’s not really build enabling per se, it’s just a really really good general purpose amulet that frees up pressure in a lot of slots .
Concur 100%. Ashes is strong but not game-breaking. And it enables a lot of fun stuff through going overboard on quality. I could see nerfing or changing the +gem level or reservation, but I hope the quality part stays.
Could probably do some decent minion shenanigans on an elder/shaper convoking wand. Otherwise you'd be looking for a +level scaling ability you can just stack supports on to make ridiculous. Most spells work, some skills like Elemental Hit. But spells definitely going to work out better.
Fucking around with a Annihilating Light Omni character and I've been using self-cast Fanaticism Discharge for omega nuking bosses. Using Ceaseless Feast with a Cyclone/CWC setup for clear and learned something very interesting. The endurance charge gain is "on hit" on enemies with 0 armor and frenzy is on hit with 0 evasion. You have a 20% chance to debuff armor/evasion and stack a buff on a boss to bring them to 0, BUT what I've found is that MOST mobs have some amount of evasion but 0 armor. Literally 0. So you can run around the map Arcing and you'll stack up free Endurance charges. Pretty nice for a caster with any sort of CoC or CWC cyclone setup as you don't even really need accuracy because hitting the mob only really matters on bosses. Just spin around and stack free Endurance charges. Think those gloves are some of the best items I've seen after obvious recent superstars like Omni/Ashes/Squire/Mageblood. If phys melee builds were a thing anymore they'd be an S tier item. Still tempted to use them on a flicker Voidforge Omni Slayer or something.
Been playing the same Lightning Tendrils Inquis since league start, just been slowly working on the build as I have time and grinding out various goals. It's gotten to a pretty good place so far. I usually only die to to unusually stupid map mods or dumb mistakes on my part or my comp not handling mob density/loading. Although it can be annoying getting mods the build can't handle like no regen. That said, I haven't tried really juiced stuff or deli maps or simulacrums or what have you. It would probably melt my computer.
It's not very expensive, the only items over ~100 chaos are the chest (3ex), the belt (1ex for item then 1.x ex for hunter orb attempt to get % life mod, womp womp FAIL), and the forbidden gems. The forbidden gems are actually fairly optional though, as I had fairly close numbers using a couple of hypnotic eye jewels combined with Kurgal's gaze unique gem. I spent way too much time earlier trying to make Righteous Fire work in the build, but it was just too squishy sacrificing all of that regen. I was using a corrupted soul timeless jewel, but the damage bypass on ES was just too much to handle. It's MUCH better now. Getting the awakened controlled destruction to proc unnerve really upped the damage to make RF not really needed IMO.
Playstyle isn't too bad, to keep up fanaticism you just shield charge around and basically alternate shield charge - short channel - shield charge - short channel. Your uptime on it is pretty good if you just keep up that pattern. If you come up on a boss or something like a delve node, you can stand still a lot and alternate smite (for aura) slightly longer channel. Frost shield helps a lot, I'm toying with the idea of getting an anomalous version to take more damage.
Any criticism or tips are welcome, I'm kinda lost as to what to do next other than throw lots of EX at it in the glove and boot slots or corruptions to get ailment immune or whatever. And ya, I know I'm down a couple of points of cold resist, I'm being lazy and haven't put a jewel in to fix it yet.
Been playing the same Lightning Tendrils Inquis since league start, just been slowly working on the build as I have time and grinding out various goals. It's gotten to a pretty good place so far. I usually only die to to unusually stupid map mods or dumb mistakes on my part or my comp not handling mob density/loading. Although it can be annoying getting mods the build can't handle like no regen. That said, I haven't tried really juiced stuff or deli maps or simulacrums or what have you. It would probably melt my computer.
It's not very expensive, the only items over ~100 chaos are the chest (3ex), the belt (1ex for item then 1.x ex for hunter orb attempt to get % life mod, womp womp FAIL), and the forbidden gems. The forbidden gems are actually fairly optional though, as I had fairly close numbers using a couple of hypnotic eye jewels combined with Kurgal's gaze unique gem. I spent way too much time earlier trying to make Righteous Fire work in the build, but it was just too squishy sacrificing all of that regen. I was using a corrupted soul timeless jewel, but the damage bypass on ES was just too much to handle. It's MUCH better now. Getting the awakened controlled destruction to proc unnerve really upped the damage to make RF not really needed IMO.
Playstyle isn't too bad, to keep up fanaticism you just shield charge around and basically alternate shield charge - short channel - shield charge - short channel. Your uptime on it is pretty good if you just keep up that pattern. If you come up on a boss or something like a delve node, you can stand still a lot and alternate smite (for aura) slightly longer channel. Frost shield helps a lot, I'm toying with the idea of getting an anomalous version to take more damage.
Any criticism or tips are welcome, I'm kinda lost as to what to do next other than throw lots of EX at it in the glove and boot slots or corruptions to get ailment immune or whatever. And ya, I know I'm down a couple of points of cold resist, I'm being lazy and haven't put a jewel in to fix it yet.
Doesn't Incandescent Heart have the same issues as corrupted soul (bypassing your energy shield)? I guess you found it to be at a manageable level?
Don't really have much i can reccomend though, especially stuff that would be cheap.
If you want to get ailment immunity then you can whitout too much hassle imo, but it's kind of expensive ofcourse.
boots can get you up to 67% with eater of world implicit and loathing essences, But you need 55% from here because you can get 45% from
arcane sanctuary (25% -anoint swap) and elegant form (20% -i'd probably get a megalomaniac with it and whatever other notable is good, like get antivenom here instead of from your small cluster)
Been playing the same Lightning Tendrils Inquis since league start, just been slowly working on the build as I have time and grinding out various goals. It's gotten to a pretty good place so far. I usually only die to to unusually stupid map mods or dumb mistakes on my part or my comp not handling mob density/loading. Although it can be annoying getting mods the build can't handle like no regen. That said, I haven't tried really juiced stuff or deli maps or simulacrums or what have you. It would probably melt my computer.
It's not very expensive, the only items over ~100 chaos are the chest (3ex), the belt (1ex for item then 1.x ex for hunter orb attempt to get % life mod, womp womp FAIL), and the forbidden gems. The forbidden gems are actually fairly optional though, as I had fairly close numbers using a couple of hypnotic eye jewels combined with Kurgal's gaze unique gem. I spent way too much time earlier trying to make Righteous Fire work in the build, but it was just too squishy sacrificing all of that regen. I was using a corrupted soul timeless jewel, but the damage bypass on ES was just too much to handle. It's MUCH better now. Getting the awakened controlled destruction to proc unnerve really upped the damage to make RF not really needed IMO.
Playstyle isn't too bad, to keep up fanaticism you just shield charge around and basically alternate shield charge - short channel - shield charge - short channel. Your uptime on it is pretty good if you just keep up that pattern. If you come up on a boss or something like a delve node, you can stand still a lot and alternate smite (for aura) slightly longer channel. Frost shield helps a lot, I'm toying with the idea of getting an anomalous version to take more damage.
Any criticism or tips are welcome, I'm kinda lost as to what to do next other than throw lots of EX at it in the glove and boot slots or corruptions to get ailment immune or whatever. And ya, I know I'm down a couple of points of cold resist, I'm being lazy and haven't put a jewel in to fix it yet.
Doesn't Incandescent Heart have the same issues as corrupted soul (bypassing your energy shield)? I guess you found it to be at a manageable level?
Don't really have much i can reccomend though, especially stuff that would be cheap.
If you want to get ailment immunity then you can whitout too much hassle imo, but it's kind of expensive ofcourse.
boots can get you up to 67% with eater of world implicit and loathing essences, But you need 55% from here because you can get 45% from
arcane sanctuary (25% -anoint swap) and elegant form (20% -i'd probably get a megalomaniac with it and whatever other notable is good, like get antivenom here instead of from your small cluster)
In my experience, Incandescent Heart is manageable as long as you get enough chaos res. I haven't had much issue and POB says it's actually a net benefit to eff life pool and max hit taken. /shrug Seems to work.
I haven't looked at a megalomaniac, that's a good idea, thanks.
I must admit I'm not sure OoS is doing all that much. I just hope it's doing a little prolif and culling with beams chaining. I have tried it with and without, tho not with my current setup so it might be worth playing around with again. It was more of a "guys playing tendrils on POE ninja are doing it, it must work... (?)" type of thing. Maybe it's better to just tack another support onto hydrosphere? That's definitely doing work. I saw somewhere someone talked about a build that had tendrils and a CwC with hydrosphere setup. That sounds interesting, but I don't really want to mess with the entire build to play with that setup at this point.
I'm not sure I have seen EO specifically to track it like you're asking, it's tough for me to spot a lot of what's going on with the chaos of POE and trying to stay alive and what not. Math says that with fanaticism up and hitting ~17/s on pulses it will be up within 8secs on average, but I'm not sure without really looking for it. Anecdotally I'm going to guess the uptime is merely ok, because there's definitely times where the boss dps goes from OK, to WHOA! but I'm not sure to put that down to unnerve, fanaticism, EO, or something else I'm not catching. So, it might be worth it to get brittle ground on boots or something. Of those 'ground' implicits on boots I was leaning towards sapped for reduced damage, but eh.
As for life recoup, I looked at it, but haven't done enough POB theorycrafting to decide if it's worth getting rid of the unique helm and/or body armour slots. Those are both doing a lot of work. It would definitely be a good thing to have though.
As for the playstyle, I always play seriously tanky builds with lower dps because of the combination of my noobish skills and computer with subpar POE performance. Tho from listening to people in this thread, even significantly higher end comps have trouble with POE, so I don't feel too bad on that front. What that means though is that I pick builds with high tolerance for standing still for a second or more without too many bad things happening. The nice thing about this patch is the combination of ashes of the stars and phantasmal tendrils is MASSIVE dps, almost by itself. I've never had a 20+M dps top end build with this much tankyness before, it's pretty nice from what I'm used to. The clear is merely ok due to limited aoe (which I could put more into), but that's more a preference than outright weakness. IMO of course.
On a completely different topic, I've been theorycrafting a build that takes advantage of the new Dawnbreaker shield. I think there's something there... .. maybe.
The main idea I've had is to take as much damage as possible to fire damage, then reduce fire damage. If you get Dawnbreaker, Tempered by War keystone, and Incandescent Heart, that's 95% (with max rolled shield) of cold and lightning taken as fire. This means you basically don't need cold and lightning res much above 0, though you could if you really wanted to. From there, you need chaos res, phys reduction, and fire reduction and res. A ruby flask and arctic armor take care of a good amount of fire and phys+fire reduction by themselves. Then you get max fire res from either purity, gear, clusters, tree, or whatever.
The other interesting thing is you really don't need much armor if you're taking a significant amount of phys damage as fire, so you could get away from molten shell and determination if you wanted to and still have good mitigation. Endurance charges would be good here, or fortify, or stuff like Slayer's Brutal Fervor.
So is it worth it to do all that? Eh, jury's out. What skill would go with it? Ascendancy? Caster or melee? Not sure yet. I was playing with a shield crush setup a bit, but Jaamon just had a vid about a very similar sort of thing that uses Jugg and transcendance with shield crush and he's tanking Sirus meteor and Maven brain explode, lol. So is it getting to the same place just in a different direction? Ehhh, maybe so?
Anyway, just the ramblings of a noob mad scientist.
On a completely different topic, I've been theorycrafting a build that takes advantage of the new Dawnbreaker shield. I think there's something there... .. maybe.
The main idea I've had is to take as much damage as possible to fire damage, then reduce fire damage. If you get Dawnbreaker, Tempered by War keystone, and Incandescent Heart, that's 95% (with max rolled shield) of cold and lightning taken as fire. This means you basically don't need cold and lightning res much above 0, though you could if you really wanted to. From there, you need chaos res, phys reduction, and fire reduction and res. A ruby flask and arctic armor take care of a good amount of fire and phys+fire reduction by themselves. Then you get max fire res from either purity, gear, clusters, tree, or whatever.
The other interesting thing is you really don't need much armor if you're taking a significant amount of phys damage as fire, so you could get away from molten shell and determination if you wanted to and still have good mitigation. Endurance charges would be good here, or fortify, or stuff like Slayer's Brutal Fervor.
So is it worth it to do all that? Eh, jury's out. What skill would go with it? Ascendancy? Caster or melee? Not sure yet. I was playing with a shield crush setup a bit, but Jaamon just had a vid about a very similar sort of thing that uses Jugg and transcendance with shield crush and he's tanking Sirus meteor and Maven brain explode, lol. So is it getting to the same place just in a different direction? Ehhh, maybe so?
Anyway, just the ramblings of a noob mad scientist.
Pathfinder or marauder. Both have access to reliable phys -> elemental that lets you convert all of your phys taken. You would still use armor though, just get the Maxarius keystone that makes it protect against elemental hits.
Regarding EO, I want to say crit is calculated on use. So you can't average out the channeled hits like that to get average uptime. But, been a while since I've played a channeled skill, so maybe that interaction isn't accurate.
Pathfinder or marauder. Both have access to reliable phys -> elemental that lets you convert all of your phys taken. You would still use armor though, just get the Maxarius keystone that makes it protect against elemental hits.
Regarding EO, I want to say crit is calculated on use. So you can't average out the channeled hits like that to get average uptime. But, been a while since I've played a channeled skill, so maybe that interaction isn't accurate.
Pathfinder... eh, I just don't like rangers. Marauder, sure, but I'm not sure you even need the extra mitigation that Jugg provides on top of the things I laid out in the first paragraph, so more def might be overkill. Berserker maybe with rage stacking and blitz? I'm kind of partial to Slayer as well. Also, since you're using tempered by war (Lethal pride with Rakiata), Maxarius keystone doesn't fit. Plus plenty of people have gone that route before Hell maybe go witch and stack spell block from the tree since the shield comes with native 40%-ish attack block by itself and pick a spell to go with it.
EO and channeling, good question I'm not sure. I BELIEVE that it's per hit, not per cast, POB seems to indicate that is the case, but I'm not certain. I'll have to do some testing. I could swear I've seen blade flurry elemental conversion builds that used in the past, but I might be hallucinating that.
whats like an easy lightning based league starter that would do well with say 6-8 power charges?
I've already decided on my next league build, barring some unexpected nerf , i want to do a discharge build that sploits farruls fur + badge interaction to get massive 18+ charge discharges, its a pretty well known build synergy. But obviously im not gonna have a farruls and badge for league start.
And while its not clear on when i'd be able to get 2 void batteries, but i can sub in storm prisons easy enuf for those at league start, so that means i should have comfortably 8 power charges early on.
as bizarre as it sounds, ive somehow played this game for a long time without ever doing a charge based build so im pretty clueless on what works. all i know is discharge seems like a garbage league start ability to me so was wondering if theres something else that could get me to say, low tier red maps, until i can afford to get the build enabling items (farruls + badge). ideally scales hard with + gem levels (as those are easy enuf to get on weapons/shields) and preferably a spell , not attack.
whats like an easy lightning based league starter that would do well with say 6-8 power charges?
I've already decided on my next league build, barring some unexpected nerf , i want to do a discharge build that sploits farruls fur + badge interaction to get massive 18+ charge discharges, its a pretty well known build synergy. But obviously im not gonna have a farruls and badge for league start.
And while its not clear on when i'd be able to get 2 void batteries, but i can sub in storm prisons easy enuf for those at league start, so that means i should have comfortably 8 power charges early on.
as bizarre as it sounds, ive somehow played this game for a long time without ever doing a charge based build so im pretty clueless on what works. all i know is discharge seems like a garbage league start ability to me so was wondering if theres something else that could get me to say, low tier red maps, until i can afford to get the build enabling items (farruls + badge). ideally scales hard with + gem levels (as those are easy enuf to get on weapons/shields) and preferably a spell , not attack.
I've currently got a Discharge build and it's decent, can literally one-shot T16 bosses, but for bosses and guardians it can be dicey because you need a few pops to clear them USUALLY. That said the gloves Ceaseless Feast are pretty nice for free endurance charges (if you're not going replica Farrul's) as MOST mobs have 0 armor to begin with so it's just a pure chance on hit. Bosses, however, have armor so you'd have to use an attack to remove their armor to get endurance charges. Using unique armor you also lose a lot of endurance charge options, but if you're going just Power/Frenzy then that should be fine.
The advanced tech is using the Discharge threshold gem (lowers CD to 250ms) and a "trigger X spells on ability use" weapon with discharge in it. It over-rides the discharge cooldown and sets it to whatever the trigger is so you can discharge more often. Discharge does have a mechanic where it does LESS damage with the threshold and LESS damage when triggered as well. Currently I run around with a Annihilatiing Light self-cast Discharge with 3 Frenzy, 6 Power, and 5 endurance and it averages 15million hits. It's pretty nice, but you definitely feel the low end of the hits especially with Power charges as it's lightning based and has lower minimum values.
If you want to blast through early league though, I absolutely would not use Discharge. It's a clunky gimmick and has terrible clear for the most part and bad bossing. I use a CWC Arc/Ball Lightning for actual clear then just hit my death button on bosses for big boom. I've made 3-5 Discharge builds and outside Mathil's Fakener YEARS ago (Pre 2.0) none of them did it all and did it all well.
Isn’t regular farruls better than replica? Moot point for me as I will be lucky if I can afford farruls in the first week, and replica is like 3x the price lol.
So far power siphon looks like a good league starter pre discharge. Never played it but it’s puttin out big numbers in pob.
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