There were rumors flying around last week that GGG was hacked or that there was some bug in their system that made it possible to access people's accounts. Might want to change your passwords just in case. Who knows though, it's the same story with every online game that comes out nowadays.
Path of Exile
- Thread starter Jim Russel
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Yeah, I hear ya. I always scoff at other people who get hacked so now it's my turn to plead my case. I'm sure it's something that was via my own fault, just trying to narrow it down now. Like I said, the only thing that I can really think that did it was the PoE Chrome extension since I accessed it at lunch today and haven't downloaded anything recently that would have malware with it. It's not a rollback or anything since I've had the Lioneyes Boots since the first week of OB, and none of my newer gear was touched. I don't particularly care about the missing items, but I am a little peeved that I don't know how my account was compromised at this point to prevent it in the future.
ever since one of my RL friends raped my d2 accounts 6-8 months after we had gotten into some bullshit, i routinely change my PW's every so often and make them retard hard, id say its not too annoying to have to keep up with, especially when the shit is actually worth/means something to you.
I definitely need to come up with a better password system as I've reused the pw that was compromised on other sites in the past. That said, I'm not sure I can really attribute this to PoE Helper either. If they had my account access they would've easily seen the amount of currency that I had on HC. It only takes ~5 mins to get a character to the camp, seems strange they wouldn't have even taken that little effort to get so much. Luckily PoE is not something I care terribly about, and since I'm way ahead of my friends in level atm it'll give me a small timesink to recover the lost gear and currency.
Thats the biggest problem, when i met my GF she used 1 PW for everything, personal email/school email/computer pw/fb pw, everything was the same, so she thought i was a little weird when my pw to my Pc/email/games were alll different, gotta have totally random ass passwords like, 98XcumdumpsterX28(get creative when they are case sensitive)
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Well to be honest, had there been a breach of security on GGG's end, you'd see hackings by the thousands, not by the dozens like you see now. It seems like the standard phishing/trojan/old password+email previously stolen combo that seems to plague every new game. It was like that for Diablo3, remember when hacker could "steal your info right out of public games"? Or more recently GW2. I think it's mostly a large amount of saved passwords from various community sites hackings. For example I have a secondary gmail account I use to make alt accounts or whatever, don't really use it, so I'm using one of my "normal" passwords on it, one that I've been using for years. Well last time I logged in it which was soon after PoE launch, I had the google warning thing how someone from china accessed it. Doesn't really matter since there's nothing on it anyway.
Anyway kinda sucks. I did hear a lot about people who has "perfect security" but were using the chrome extension though. Might just be a coincidence.
Anyway kinda sucks. I did hear a lot about people who has "perfect security" but were using the chrome extension though. Might just be a coincidence.
If you reused a previously compromised name/pw pair, that's almost certainly what got you. I'd never been hacked in all the ridiculously large number of years I've been online, until D3, where I reused a name/pw pair that I occasionally used for internet forums. Basically, if you've ever used a particular name/pw pair for any "low impact" website like a gaming forum, you should just assume it's been stolen.
Jim Russel
Lord Nagafen Raider
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So I leveled a hc witch to about 56. My build so far has been searing touch with fireball/chance to ignite/elemental proliferation. For low levels it was very good because of the way that fireball damage increases early on (the +2 fire gems and increased burning damage on The Searing touch is all you need for dps at lower levels). I've taken almost exclusively life/resist nodes and have been using minions for survivability. However, at this level I'm finding my dps to be very lacking. To further complicate things, not having armor makes me very squishy against archers and fast moving melee mobs so I can't respec to take any dps nodes as it is.
I've decided to respec to a dual totem build (the going is slow...), similar to dominion's (http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/vie.../gender/page/1) The major difference is that mine will be based on elemental equilibrium. I'm going to have a spork totem, an ice spear totem, and a fire trap skill (which will be in my searing touch, benefiting from the +2 to fire skills, supported by chance to ignite and elem prolif). All three of these damage sources will be supported by the corresponding penetration gem, so even if they hit twice in a row the +25% resistance will be penetrated. Additionally, I'm going dual curse and will probably do elem weakness/flammability for dps and temp chains/enfeeble for harder mobs. The fire traps will be laid next to the totems and do insane damage because of the 70% increased burning damage from the searing touch and because the fire trap's initial explosion (very high damage) will cause the burning status ailment which *stacks* with the floor burning damage. The status ailment will be proliferated to nearby mobs.
I'm assuming that the -50% resistances can make mob resistance negative. With elem weakness and the -50% buff, that would be 100% *more* (multiplicative) spell damage (and 150% for fire if I double curse with flammability) so damage could conceivably rival or even beat a dual spork build (which gets more shocked status ailments up).
Of course, this all sounds good in theory but we'll see if i'll survive long enough to try it and, if so, whether it works. If you like the idea and want to hear how it goes, you can support the cause by tossing me some regrets because I'm going to need like 15 more now and then another 15 or so when I respec from life to CI.
If I could start over, I would do this as a marauder:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-s...byL_ou-tL-vw==
to...
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-s...-G8i_z3fZI-tI=
Essentially the same build sans the curse nodes. You'd need a doedre's damning and curses would expire which would be a major annoyance, but the survivability would be much greater with all that armor. Unfortunately, I have a feeling this build might not be viable until hitting all those far-reaching mana/mana regen nodes (ie, like level 89) which begs the question of "if you've made it that far, why change builds?".
I've decided to respec to a dual totem build (the going is slow...), similar to dominion's (http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/vie.../gender/page/1) The major difference is that mine will be based on elemental equilibrium. I'm going to have a spork totem, an ice spear totem, and a fire trap skill (which will be in my searing touch, benefiting from the +2 to fire skills, supported by chance to ignite and elem prolif). All three of these damage sources will be supported by the corresponding penetration gem, so even if they hit twice in a row the +25% resistance will be penetrated. Additionally, I'm going dual curse and will probably do elem weakness/flammability for dps and temp chains/enfeeble for harder mobs. The fire traps will be laid next to the totems and do insane damage because of the 70% increased burning damage from the searing touch and because the fire trap's initial explosion (very high damage) will cause the burning status ailment which *stacks* with the floor burning damage. The status ailment will be proliferated to nearby mobs.
I'm assuming that the -50% resistances can make mob resistance negative. With elem weakness and the -50% buff, that would be 100% *more* (multiplicative) spell damage (and 150% for fire if I double curse with flammability) so damage could conceivably rival or even beat a dual spork build (which gets more shocked status ailments up).
Of course, this all sounds good in theory but we'll see if i'll survive long enough to try it and, if so, whether it works. If you like the idea and want to hear how it goes, you can support the cause by tossing me some regrets because I'm going to need like 15 more now and then another 15 or so when I respec from life to CI.
If I could start over, I would do this as a marauder:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-s...byL_ou-tL-vw==
to...
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-s...-G8i_z3fZI-tI=
Essentially the same build sans the curse nodes. You'd need a doedre's damning and curses would expire which would be a major annoyance, but the survivability would be much greater with all that armor. Unfortunately, I have a feeling this build might not be viable until hitting all those far-reaching mana/mana regen nodes (ie, like level 89) which begs the question of "if you've made it that far, why change builds?".
Elerion
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Your physical attack damage is relatively meaningless with LA. Half of it gets converted to lightning so it can be boosted by your +% elemental damage nodes/gear, but it doesn't get any other special kind of boost. Since 100% of elemental damage gets boosted by those same nodes/gear, elemental damage and attack speed is more important than physical. The gearing is the same.
Elerion
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My current HC character is also a dual totem build, following Dominion's lead (see link in Etwynn's post above). Word of advice: It's boring as shit. I'm going to keep trucking because it's my highest HC character and I might as well go until I die, but there's no way I'm making another character like this.
It doesn't feel particularly strong either. I cleared shit so much faster with my elemental bow shadow and my elemental bow BM ranger.
It's super safe for clearing dungeons/areas, since your totems and summons get all the aggro. On the other hand, bosses don't feel any safer than any other build, and bosses are generally what kills you unless you lag out or completely stop paying attention.
I'm hoping it improves once I get double curses and stuff (currently only level 50), if not I'll just have to find some other build to respec into.
It doesn't feel particularly strong either. I cleared shit so much faster with my elemental bow shadow and my elemental bow BM ranger.
It's super safe for clearing dungeons/areas, since your totems and summons get all the aggro. On the other hand, bosses don't feel any safer than any other build, and bosses are generally what kills you unless you lag out or completely stop paying attention.
I'm hoping it improves once I get double curses and stuff (currently only level 50), if not I'll just have to find some other build to respec into.
Jim Russel
Lord Nagafen Raider
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I'm pretty sure dominion said somewhere that he doesn't do dual totem until like merc ledge. Prior to them all that defensive strategy is kind of excessive.
New patch details talk about saved login details only working from the IP you created them. Sounds like maybe passwords were saved remotely so hackers only needed email addresses to login ? Shocking if true.
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Part of the reason yeah but it's also to do with LA mechanics when coupled with typical projectile aoe supports. Let's take an easy example, Fireball vs LA. If you fork/chain/pierce fireball, it loses its aoe property on most of the targets. If you fork/chain/pierce LA, it still creates an aoe for every single target hit. If you shoot at say 9 very packed mobs with LMP+chain fireball, and for the sake of the example I'll simplify, it's gonna hit all the mobs 3 times(once per fireball from LMP) and 2x3 more mobs with a normal single target hit from chain. If you hit those same 9 mobs with LMP+chain LA, it will hit every mob 9times(1 aoe per bounce and per arrow). The difference is ridiculous and THEN you add the shock issue as you mentionned which will proc on the entire chain from a crit which means it hits 3times for 3shock stacks then 6more times with the full shock stack debuff all near instantly? Fucking stupid.
I think the solution is pretty simple really, LA needs to stop doing a full aoe for every hit when it pierces/chain/fork and instead act the same way as fireball or explosive arrow does, which is if the projectile has the pierce chain or fork property, it won't create an aoe. That means if you chain LA, you get first hit single target, 2nd hit single target, 3rd hit aoe, same as fireball. That would severely nerf LA potential but at the same time it's a needed change, or LA's damage need to come down a fuckton but that doesn't sound very viable for people who want to use LA without chain.
Ahh the way I thought about it was that since the Lightning portion is a % of the physical damage you do, improving your physical damage improved the lightning damage portion as well...whereas it would not be the case for elemental hit.
I also remember reading that the lightning portion gets improved by physical damage properties at a couple different places :\
So gearing wise, I'd just go for a bow with the most elemental damage on it (x-X lightning/fire/cold) regardless completely of the physical and physical % parts?
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Well Lightning Arrow will be affected by physical % for sure since it converts your physical dmg. So if you hit for 20% more physical dmg, LA will do 20% more damage. However the elemental dmg % passives will also affect it since it also does lightning damage. Now if you have the choice between 1% physical and 1% elemental, for LA the physical would be better since 1% elemental only affects half of the LA dmg. However if you look at the values, the elemental % nodes tend to be bigger and that's especially true for the templar one which is way way bigger than any physical node. This compensates.
On top of that you have elemental dmg on your gear vs physical dmg. It is easier to get elemental damage on your gear than physical dmg. This is because there's only one physical affix mod on items while there's obviously 3 for elemental. On the weapon you can get +physical% too so that helps a lot for physical builds, but quivers, ring and belts(and amulets? not sure) can also get +elemental dmg%. Add Wrath and Anger and you will often have a lot more elemental dmg from your gear than physical damage.
Finally one big difference is the supports. If you're a melee, you have a fair choice between melee physical dmg% which adds like 50% physical and weapon elemental which adds like 80%. However as an archer, you're fucked cause you can't use melee physical damage for obvious reasons. That's why right away elemental is more interesting cause that's a 80% bonus, and like similar suppots it's a 80%morebonus meaning it's multiplicative instead of additive like most of the rest.
So yeah you're better off stacking elemental dmg on gear and going full elemental, LA works very well with this. Works very well for physical builds too tbh, that's why LA is so played, works with everything. For the weapon, do look for the highest possible elemental rolls, but a high physical is also not entirely wasted, at least for LA, since it converts 50% of that to elemental which is then increased by all your elemental %. For elemental hit it'd be a bit wasted, but it's not a deal breaker.
On top of that you have elemental dmg on your gear vs physical dmg. It is easier to get elemental damage on your gear than physical dmg. This is because there's only one physical affix mod on items while there's obviously 3 for elemental. On the weapon you can get +physical% too so that helps a lot for physical builds, but quivers, ring and belts(and amulets? not sure) can also get +elemental dmg%. Add Wrath and Anger and you will often have a lot more elemental dmg from your gear than physical damage.
Finally one big difference is the supports. If you're a melee, you have a fair choice between melee physical dmg% which adds like 50% physical and weapon elemental which adds like 80%. However as an archer, you're fucked cause you can't use melee physical damage for obvious reasons. That's why right away elemental is more interesting cause that's a 80% bonus, and like similar suppots it's a 80%morebonus meaning it's multiplicative instead of additive like most of the rest.
So yeah you're better off stacking elemental dmg on gear and going full elemental, LA works very well with this. Works very well for physical builds too tbh, that's why LA is so played, works with everything. For the weapon, do look for the highest possible elemental rolls, but a high physical is also not entirely wasted, at least for LA, since it converts 50% of that to elemental which is then increased by all your elemental %. For elemental hit it'd be a bit wasted, but it's not a deal breaker.
This is what I'm thinking happened. I've used the login I created for PoE for a number of gaming related forums and that's almost certainly what compromised me. I scanned my system overnight with a number of tools and found no malicious software, so like I said I don't believe that it's a keylogger or trojan. Still possibly related to PoE Helper, but I'm going through the code of that extension as I have time to check it out. Too bad this patch didn't come a day earlier
