Playstation TV - Launching Octover 14th 2014 - Details / Information / Reviews thread

Thanks for the review, was going to pick this up but will hold off till it gets some updates.

Utnayan_sl said:

Oh definitely. On the Vita Child of Light looks awesome on the Vita in 960 ? 544 - which is an off resolution. Now imagine throwing a 544p game horribly upscaled to 720p/1080i format on a 50-60" LED. The differences are night and day. And look awful. Obviously smaller screen on the Vita, but I tested Child of Light on the PS3, forced 720p, and threw it up at the same 50" in 720p, and it was infinitely better.

The scaling is just atrocious.

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I think the TV size is likely part of the scaling feeling so horrendous to you - I'll be curious to hear some 30-40" reviews of how the scaling is. I can't imagine too many people were thinking of using it to extend their systems onto a huge TV while having their primary systems on small TVs... seems backwards to most people.

Most people have a household with a few 50+" TVs that would primary their systems, and use these with small 25-37" TVs that would extend their systems into additional rooms I'd imagine. So if the scaling is awful on big TV's it's not really that big of a deal if the demographics work out like I'd imagine.

But then again, since that's my plan I could just be assuming my situation is normal and it's not. (50" in bedroom with PS4&3, 50" in Living Room with PS4&3 and will in the future extend the PS4s into the guest bedroom and second TV in the Living Room (both 37") with Vita TVs)

Soygen_sl said:

The size of the screen shouldn't matter if you're at the proper viewing distance (assuming equal resolution of the televisions).

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True - quick and dirty to assume that you might be pushing it with a 50" though, since the proper viewing distance is further. Especially since lower resolution pushes proper viewing distance even higher, no?

Lets assume someone doesn't own or give a fuck about the Vita, Netflix or anything like that.

Is this thing worth buying just for the PS4 remote play? I just want to be able to leave my PS4 in the living room and play in the office when my wife wants to watch stupid shit.

Most reviews are glossing over it but that's been the main selling point to me since this thing was announced.

From the bit I've seen, supposed to do it very well (not seen any mention of measurable lag) but at 720p. So as long as the resolution hit is fine by you it should do that well from what I've seen. (see my mentions of smaller TVs above - part of my reasoning)

So if vita games look like shit. I am guessing psp games look double shit? Was curious if stuff like ff4 complete and fft would look nice enough to play again.

Have you tried doing the "Child of Light" test running the PS4 version streaming to it though? (or PS3, but I don't think you can stream from PS3, right? Obviously can use something else to test fidelity if you don't have CoL on PS4, just using that term since you used it for the two previous) I know CoL looks great on PS3's 720p on a 50" (In fact it's how I played it first before double buying for PS4 as well) - but does the Vita TV scaling screw up the scaling when it's NOT A VITA game is what I'm wondering.

I realize for you, most of what you wanted to do with it was to have a "Big Vita" which quite clearly going from the bizarre resolution to 720 is going to be wonky (frankly I hope if/when I get around to playing Vita titles on one it would get a "letterbox" option rather than stretching it to hell) but if it scales stuff that's pushed via PSNow and PS4 Remote Play just fine that's a different ball of wax for many users.

Yes, for people in your boat it sucks - but trying to find out how our desire to eventually use it would work out. (I'm imagining it'll work out well at 37"ish though, since I was doing PS4 Remote Play over the internet via Vita [portable] when I was hotelling to find our new place with the TV adapter and it looked fine for D3:UEE barring the occasional artifacting from doing it over the internet)

The home console versions of Child of Light probably have their assets stored at an optimal resolution for 720p while the Vita version have them for 544p. Upscaling 544p to 720p means it will have jaggies or be blurry (or both!). They should upscale to 1088p and crop 8 lines or cheat with the top and bottom 4 lines. At least it would look crisp.

Seems odd if it's having problems without the direct connect Ut vs. Vita Portable Remote Play - the wireless/over the internet versions seemed as close to flawless as you can expect in each case for the Vita Portable.

How do vita games that require touch input work when using a ds3? I'd love to have my vita library on bigscreen

There's a compatibility list, Tol. None of the touchscreen games I know of are on it.

There is a a soft emulation of sorts with a pointer you can move on screen with the analog stick I believe? I remember seeing something like that when they first revealed the gizmo several months back, so it might not be in the final product.

They could've always just used that stupid as fuck touchpad on the ps4 controller.