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Sounds like Gilligan thinks this won't be ready for S2 until late 2027 or 2028. I don't think I'll give a shit by that point.

The show is good, but 2-3 years between seasons good? No way I'm spending 10+ years on this fucking thing.

yeah i enjoyed season 1 but holy shit i don't think i've ever seen a more slower paced, languid, unfocused show. I binged the last 3-4 episodes and I think waiting week to week would have really made me dislike the show.

The sci fi stuff is fun, clearly this is a Dark Forest system where aliens are exterminating other intelligent species by rendering them into pacifist freaks who lose any motivation to go into space and conquer, and the cherry on top is the species basically wipes itself out AND still has a final genetic prerogative to find someone else to transmit the infection to before they die off.

absolutely diabolical in a universe without FTL, why bother going off and conquering the galaxy when you can just transmit a virus and make sure you are the only species around. Although I wonder if the OG species that developed it did it on purpose, or it arose by accident. I doubt we'll ever get an answer, but its a neat idea.

Also tough to see how you stretch this idea out for more than 1-2 more seasons, without getting into some heavy space opera. Man I'd love a flashback episode to the alien race that sent the virus (600 years ago!) but I doubt that ever happens. I also really wonder how they figured out Earth has life, since the 600 light years distance means they wouldn't have received any Earth radio/light signals.

Kirun said:

The show is good, but 2-3 years between seasons good? No way I'm spending 10+ years on this fucking thing.

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Any pop culture mojo / significance is going to be desiccated beyond recovering by the time season two is premiering.

Carol being a terrible person might be a product of contemporary (bad) writing habits more so than a plot point that will unravel in the future. As a point of reference



here's a lady talking about fanfiction and how it's trained current writers to be shit. It's not necessary but it's influencing what I'm going to say here and her content has thus far all been good.

Carol is a successful writer. We see her books prominently featured at an airport book store. Dorks show up in decent number for a book signing for her newest novel. She hates her fans. She hates the drivel she writes. She hates the drivel her competition writes. She's a drunk. She's got a monogamous maybe wife in Helen who loves her unconditionally. We see them on a trip together and Carol is horrible to be around but that doesn't matter to Helen. Later on we learn that before she died Helen joined the hivemind and she truly 100% loved Carol for reals. Over the course of nine episodes we're never shown a reason for that. There's no pet the dog moment where we are given a glimpse of the person Helen fell in love with. Helen isn't there for the money either. The hivemind can't lie. Helen loved Carol deeply and truly.

What we've got is a character that doesn't deserve that or anything else good in her life. It's not because this is a cleverly chosen point of view character turning the concept of the protagonist on it's head. It's because we've got ladies at the head of the writers room that have conjured a character that they and many other women can self-insert as - no redeeming qualities but receive success and unconditional love anyway. It's Bella Swan of Twilight except instead of targeting high school age girls we're going for cool wine aunts. It's hollow fanfiction tier characterization. We're not going to see the other sides of her as the series progresses. There's one side and this is it.

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absolutely diabolical in a universe without FTL, why bother going off and conquering the galaxy when you can just transmit a virus and make sure you are the only species around. Although I wonder if the OG species that developed it did it on purpose, or it arose by accident. I doubt we'll ever get an answer, but its a neat idea.

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Alternatively, it could be how an alien race "reproduces". I forget the name of the book series, but it was about an alien race that came to Earth and began to seed their genetic material into the human population (which has a much larger impact on babies born from the genetically altered people) because it was the way this alien species spread "itself" across the galaxy

A huge chunk of our existing DNA contains the fossilized genetic code of viruses long extinct, passed down over millions of years. It's even thought that viruses play a significant role in evolution as well.