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We know they have Manousos' cells from hos hospital visit, so both are main characters are under the gun.

I have a sneaky suspicion that they are going to create some sort of headpiece or device that locally blocks the signal. We are going to get a scene where they turn (or attempt to) Carol and Manousos is going to use the device to free her.
 
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"Hello. Take me to the lab with all of my cells in it. Are these all of them? Great. Leave the room please."

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Chanur said:
Carol is quite possibly the most selfish character I've ever seen.
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Yeah, it's amazing. She is selfish, dumb, callous and she knows it and hates herself. Somehow it all seems endearing enough for me personally, but I've also never had to deal with someone like that for any lengthy bit of time. I can only imagine that a lot of people who hate Carol also had someone they worked with or in their family or friend's group that had the same insufferable, selfish personality.

I keep thinking that if she wasn't such a moron, the show would completely fall apart. It only works built around this miserable, pathetic character. I am hoping she goes through some level of growth, but who knows. It's not like Walter White or Saul Goodman didn't end with the same core flaws they had at the start of the show, they just somehow accepted them and made amends (Note: I didn't finish BCS).
 
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Arbitrary said:
"Hello. Take me to the lab with all of my cells in it. Are these all of them? Great. Leave the room please."
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I was thinking the same thing. She is too dumb to see obvious things through the haze of self-hatred and alcohol dependency. Meanwhile Manusous is a storage sitter trying to learn electromagnetism in a different language and having as much luck as Carol at AAA.
 
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One is a sociologist type and the other an engineer. Her career was pleasing a certain type of people she had nothing in common with, so she (was) naturally more suspicious and used her feelings and dialogue to figure things out. He was obviously a practical and mechanical man. Decently good with tools, bare and empty apartment that already had an emergency bug-out bag, doesn't give a shit about anything but fixing a problem.

It's an interesting pair because down the line he's going to do more stuff that WILL kill people and she's going to have to decide whether or not it's worth sacrificing hive people to possibly save them later.
 
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Synj said:
I don't mean to be pretentious the book is better guy, but if you enjoy this show (or are looking for a better exploration of transhumanism) do yourselves a favor and read this:


Blindsight is a 2006 hard science fiction novel by Peter Watts, the first in the Firefall series, about a crew of augmented humans sent to investigate a mysterious alien signal from the edge of the solar system. The story explores themes of consciousness, intelligence, and humanity's place in the universe through a first-contact scenario with an alien intelligence that may not be conscious in a way humans understand. The crew includes a linguist with multiple personalities, a cyborg biologist, and a vampire captain, making them potentially more alien than the beings they seek.

Key aspects of the novel:
  • Plot:
    After mysterious probes appear and disappear around Earth, a signal is detected from the Kuiper belt. A specialized crew is sent on the spaceship Theseus to investigate, leading to a tense first contact.

  • Genre:
    Hard science fiction, known for its scientific accuracy and complex ideas, but also described as a novel about the human condition and the nature of consciousness.

  • Characters:
    Features a unique and diverse crew, including a vampire (a genetically engineered hominid) as the captain, a linguist with multiple personalities, and a cyborg biologist.

  • Themes:
    Explores the nature of consciousness (or lack thereof), the limits of human understanding, and the potential for alien intelligence to be fundamentally different from our own.

  • Reception:
    Nominated for several awards, including the Hugo Award, and praised for its unique approach to the first-contact trope.
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Apparently I bought this on Kindle in 2017 and forgot about it.
 
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Out of the entire first season the thing I cared the most about was that little baby goat who ran right after that girl after she chose death by hivemind. That shit made my soul sad.
 
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Out of the entire first season the thing I cared the most about was that little baby goat who ran right after that girl after she chose death by hivemind. That shit made my soul sad.
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It shows they don't actually care about things as they pretend for the uninfected. They only care about spreading the infection (obviously).
 
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Tuco said:
I was thinking the same thing. She is too dumb to see obvious things through the haze of self-hatred and alcohol dependency. Meanwhile Manusous is a storage sitter trying to learn electromagnetism in a different language and having as much luck as Carol at AAA.
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You have to take what they say literally. Like when they only communicated via answering machine message.

"We will do our best to provide it for you"

Is not the same as we will always do it for you. They would say no in this case as it goes against their biological imperative
 
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Tuco said:
Yeah, it's amazing. She is selfish, dumb, callous and she knows it and hates herself. Somehow it all seems endearing enough for me personally, but I've also never had to deal with someone like that for any lengthy bit of time. I can only imagine that a lot of people who hate Carol also had someone they worked with or in their family or friend's group that had the same insufferable, selfish personality.

I keep thinking that if she wasn't such a moron, the show would completely fall apart. It only works built around this miserable, pathetic character. I am hoping she goes through some level of growth, but who knows. It's not like Walter White or Saul Goodman didn't end with the same core flaws they had at the start of the show, they just somehow accepted them and made amends (Note: I didn't finish BCS).
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The difference is Walter White and Saul Goodman are rational characters who descend into dark places due to circumstance, whereas Carol Sturka acts completely irrational and narcissistic in basically every scenario.

Anyway, for 9 episodes of this show, I feel like not a whole lot happened. You could skip everything but the first and last one and I don't feel like you'd miss a whole lot.
 
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Gravel said:
The difference is Walter White and Saul Goodman are rational characters who descend into dark places due to circumstance, whereas Carol Sturka acts completely irrational and narcissistic in basically every scenario.
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Hmmmm, I didn't watch all of BCS but I would say that's a shallow description of Walter White's character.

Walter White is a narcisistic genius filled with regret who latches onto a feeling of importance and power under the false guise that he's doing it for his family. He's broken bad not by circumstance, but by his own internal flaws brought out because of circumstance. See: 1:40, which is one of my favorite scenes in the show:



Conversely, Carol is narcissistic in ways she doesn't even understand, while also hating herself and bumbling anything she tries both out of incompetence and weakness of will. She's the biggest piece of shit protagonist in any show I've ever seen intentionally written and I love it.
 
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Gravel said:
The difference is Walter White and Saul Goodman are rational characters who descend into dark places due to circumstance, whereas Carol Sturka acts completely irrational and narcissistic in basically every scenario.

Anyway, for 9 episodes of this show, I feel like not a whole lot happened. You could skip everything but the first and last one and I don't feel like you'd miss a whole lot.
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So it's true to life is what you are saying.
 
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