Project Epoch - WoW Classic+

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Burren said:
Warrior: rage generation is 100% broken. We aren't getting any from being hit. Not getting any from the talent that's supposed to provide 1 rage every 3 seconds. Hitting doesn't even seem to be giving enough. In dungeons, I'm rage starved 100% of the run.
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Doesn't surprise me given how Charge is broken.

Charge overshoots target and sometimes doesn't stun. Charge never consistently put the warrior beyond the target out of LOS like it does on Epoch.

Wars ain't it on this server. We'll see if the devs address any of this-- but it'd need to be soon to not be viewed as a total shitbox in emu rankings. These are basic core class mechanics.

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jayrebb said:
Doesn't surprise me given how Charge is broken.

Charge overshoots target and sometimes doesn't stun. Charge never consistently put the warrior beyond the target out of LOS like it does on Epoch.

Wars ain't it on this server. We'll see if the devs address any of this, but it'd need to be soon to not be viewed as a total shitbox in emu rankings. These are basic core class mechanics.
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Fucking hope it’s soon. I’m lvl 31 and not interested in starting over. Would be too far behind the wave then.
 
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Fucking hope it’s soon. I’m lvl 31 and not interested in starting over. Would be too far behind the wave then.
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Wondering what the fuck kind of beta was done. Starting to look like a lot of glamor/hype and not much fundamental development.

I'm betting if we parsed warrior mitigation that inconsistencies show up in the early levels. And that maybe with these lazy developers they made a pass on everything at level 60 so "everything's fine". That'd be small consolation, but no guarantee. And with Charge and rage generation fucked, they don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.
 
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Wondering what the fuck kind of beta was done. Starting to look like a lot of glamor/hype and not much fundamental development.

I'm betting if we parsed warrior mitigation that inconsistencies show up in the early levels. And that maybe with these lazy developers they made a pass on everything at level 60 so "everything's fine". That'd be small consolation, but no guarantee. And with Charge and rage generation fucked, they don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.
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Being "fine" at 60 is all well and good, but there's a lot between here and there. And, it kind of shows a lack of knowledge of the game and programing.
 
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For sure. If there's a whiff of "Well ackshually rage generation works fine at 60" from the devs or community, I'm out.

They say this server is a lot of "QoL". We'll see if they can add some QoL to core class mechanics.
 
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I guess 20 years was enough to make me forget how enraging it was to watch hunters tag and solo everything with their fucking pets tanking 3 mobs. The rage is back and better than ever now.
 
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Its been pointed out in-game in global channels, but a hunter pet right now is equal to a warrior. In both tanking, damage output, and threat. Hunter's have a pet warrior. It's overtuned and everyone agrees somethings off.
 
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Hopefully they fix it.

Also, wolf form doesn't overwrite the exalted moonkin form reward from Darkshore, so I'm a sprinting Moonkin lol

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I noticed the charge issue on warrior. I thought rage starved in the low levels was normal so I havent thought much of it.

Almost level 20 with explorer contract and I don't want to change so hopefully they fix it.
 
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I thought rage starved in the low levels was normal so I havent thought much of it.
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I logged in after and my unrelated guildchat had level 30-40 warriors complaining about rage abilties/talents not working properly. There are also more bugs being discovered with other classes. Some druid pointed out a talent does nothing gives 0 effect or buff. Lot of holes to be patched on Epoch.

After seeing random warriors in guild start mentioning it I decided Burren's account is 100% accurate. There's just no way complete random level 40 warriors in my guild would be linking talents pissed off mentioning they do nothing if they did anything at all without this even being a widespread subject. People are noticing this is a beta from all corners.
 
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jayrebb said:
I logged in after and my unrelated guildchat had level 30-40 warriors complaining about rage abilties/talents not working properly. There are also more bugs being discovered with other classes. Some druid pointed out a talent does nothing gives 0 effect or buff. Lot of holes to be patched on Epoch.

After seeing random warriors in guild start mentioning it I decided Burren's account is 100% accurate. There's just no way complete random level 40 warriors in my guild would be linking talents pissed off mentioning they do nothing if they did anything at all without this even being a widespread subject. People are noticing this is a beta from all corners.
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I may to back to TWOW for awhile and let them sort it out then.
 
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jayrebb said:
I logged in after and my unrelated guildchat had level 30-40 warriors complaining about rage abilties/talents not working properly. There are also more bugs being discovered with other classes. Some druid pointed out a talent does nothing gives 0 effect or buff. Lot of holes to be patched on Epoch.

After seeing random warriors in guild start mentioning it I decided Burren's account is 100% accurate. There's just no way complete random level 40 warriors in my guild would be linking talents pissed off mentioning they do nothing if they did anything at all without this even being a widespread subject. People are noticing this is a beta from all corners.
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What other class mechanics aren't working?
 
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I wish people who complain about things actually read up on them. Yes, warrior rage at low levels is ass. Because it was ass in TBC as well. Hopefully there will be a rebalance, but that won't be anytime soon since it's not a "bug" and just untuned.

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Did you guys not play on the stress tests and notice these problems?
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I didn’t play the stress. But, that doesn’t go up to 20, 30, or more does it
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I wish people who complain about things actually read up on them. Yes, warrior rage at low levels is ass. Because it was ass in TBC as well. Hopefully there will be a rebalance, but that won't be anytime soon since it's not a "bug" and just untuned.

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This isn't just a matter of tuning though. If a warrior gets hit by a mob, no rage is generated. That's a straight up bug. Same with the talent that's supposed to create rage every 3 seconds; it creates zero.
 
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Burren said:
I didn’t play the stress. But, that doesn’t go up to 20, 30, or more does it

This isn't just a matter of tuning though. If a warrior gets hit by a mob, no rage is generated. That's a straight up bug. Same with the talent that's supposed to create rage every 3 seconds; it creates zero.
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Read the posts. Rage is generated with a single decimal place calculation, but only shown as whole numbers. You are generating a fraction of rage every time you get hit, it just doesn't show until you break over a whole number amount. Not a bug. Just not properly tuned.
 
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Here's a new one; hit Bloodrage (supposed to give 10 rage, then 1 more per tick, up to 10 tick). Well, instead, its giving 7-9 rage, then decaying 1 per tick AND giving 1 per tick, until its off. So, I can't battleshout off it because its not giving at least 10 rage like it should.
 
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Burren said:
Here's a new one; hit Bloodrage (supposed to give 10 rage, then 1 more per tick, up to 10 tick). Well, instead, its giving 7-9 rage, then decaying 1 per tick AND giving 1 per tick, until its off. So, I can't battleshout off it because its not giving at least 10 rage like it should.
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I'm guessing you're doing this out of combat?
 
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