Project Epoch - WoW Classic+

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The QoL that comes with 3.3.5 just cannot be understated. TWoW is going to have to update if they hope to keep up with Ascension
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TWoW and Ascension are going completely different paths though.

Regardless Turtle is making their own client which apparently will be better all round. True or not I don't know I'll believe it when I see it.

But I'm assuming you're talking about Bronzebeard which is still way different than Turtle they call it classic+ and I'm really not sure why. I really feel the term Classic+ is just getting thrown around at any project that sets WoW in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms.

Bronzebeard I've been trying out it's fun but fucking hell does it have problems. The agro range on mobs is just what the actual fuck, the scaling of mobs is either to low or to high on some mobs you'll go from killing something that's pretty easy to kill to getting 3 shot at level 5 by a caster mob, like wtf do you want me to do I got literally Shadow Bolt and an Imp. It's good but still uncooked so hopefully when it's full release that will be polished.

Turtle they've revamped classes to where they're more interesting than Classic but not to the levels of Wrath they feel more in line with TBC which I personally like, it pisses off classic Warrior players because Warriors aren't doing like 75% more damage than every other class which makes me happy because fuck'em. But the custom content zones, instances, quests, ect feels fun to play and actually like they have thought put into it.
 
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I played a shit load of turtle pvp, no clue how some people think it's an unplayable client or something

Lots of epoch ppl going to turtle from reports

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rolien said:
TWoW and Ascension are going completely different paths though.

Regardless Turtle is making their own client which apparently will be better all round. True or not I don't know I'll believe it when I see it.

But I'm assuming you're talking about Bronzebeard which is still way different than Turtle they call it classic+ and I'm really not sure why. I really feel the term Classic+ is just getting thrown around at any project that sets WoW in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms.

Bronzebeard I've been trying out it's fun but fucking hell does it have problems. The agro range on mobs is just what the actual fuck, the scaling of mobs is either to low or to high on some mobs you'll go from killing something that's pretty easy to kill to getting 3 shot at level 5 by a caster mob, like wtf do you want me to do I got literally Shadow Bolt and an Imp. It's good but still uncooked so hopefully when it's full release that will be polished.

Turtle they've revamped classes to where they're more interesting than Classic but not to the levels of Wrath they feel more in line with TBC which I personally like, it pisses off classic Warrior players because Warriors aren't doing like 75% more damage than every other class which makes me happy because fuck'em. But the custom content zones, instances, quests, ect feels fun to play and actually like they have thought put into it.
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The UE5 client for TWOW is going to be amazing. I am looking forward to it.
 
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Nirgon said:
I played a shit load of turtle pvp, no clue how some people think it's an unplayable client or something

Lots of epoch ppl going to turtle from reports

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Epoch has basically lost all momentum and hype. Serves them right.

As far as TWoW's client, the 1.12 client is so piss poor that you have to install a shitton of add-ons just to get any useful information out of it. It's probably best TWoW is going the direction of making their own client.
 
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If BB is up and running by September I doubt Epoch beats them. They simply have years of development work in terms of just raw development gap between Trinity and the other more stable ones. Like what TWOW and Ascension use.
 
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Epoch has basically lost all momentum and hype. Serves them right.

As far as TWoW's client, the 1.12 client is so piss poor that you have to install a shitton of add-ons just to get any useful information out of it. It's probably best TWoW is going the direction of making their own client.
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Useful information like what? Really?

I played from day 1 all the way through Kara40 and killed tons of Kel'Thuzads. I didn't find a single thing to be unplayable??
 
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Nirgon said:
Useful information like what? Really?

I played from day 1 all the way through Kara40 and killed tons of Kel'Thuzads. I didn't find a single thing to be unplayable??
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I've never once used the word "unplayable." The game isn't that hard or complicated. But there ARE a lot of useful QoL that 1.12 simply doesn't offer that add-ons / later versions do.
 
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rolien said:
But I'm assuming you're talking about Bronzebeard which is still way different than Turtle they call it classic+ and I'm really not sure why. I really feel the term Classic+ is just getting thrown around at any project that sets WoW in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms.
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Think you are confusing "classic" and "vanilla".

For most people classic wow refers to the original trilogy (vanilla/tbc/wotlk), before they revamped all the original zones to add flying in cataclysm.

Turtle is vanilla+. They continue to expand horizontally adding new content to the vanilla game world. Epoch will be tbc+ if they ever launch and bronzebeard will be wotlk+. All 3 are under the umbrella of "classic+"
 
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I've never once used the word "unplayable." The game isn't that hard or complicated. But there ARE a lot of useful QoL that 1.12 simply doesn't offer that add-ons / later versions do.
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Is it something to do with long macros or what, genuinely curious and not being the usual snide question asker

People are refusing to play because of it hence how unplayable (for them) got in there
 
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Is it something to do with long macros or what, genuinely curious and not being the usual snide question asker

People are refusing to play because of it hence how unplayable (for them) got in there
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I like that in 3.3.5, I don't have to download the quest tracker to see stuff on the map. I still do, but it's no longer required. 3.3.5 also feels better when in combat and smoother transition between spells.
 
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Kaines said:
Epoch has basically lost all momentum and hype. Serves them right.

As far as TWoW's client, the 1.12 client is so piss poor that you have to install a shitton of add-ons just to get any useful information out of it. It's probably best TWoW is going the direction of making their own client.
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Will the Unreal client support all the addons? Why are they doing all this work instead of just using the 3.3.5 client?
 
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I doubt it. Rexxar has been getting the "Soon" treatment for a long ass time. This seems like the MO for Ascension servers.
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BB has been sending out mass invites though, so they're essentially no longer making money on paid beta access. They have an incentive to get it released so they can monetize those users now.
 
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Both teams (rexxar/coa and bronzebeard/reborn) were trying to revamp/rebalance vanilla while rexxar was adding 21 new classes and bb was adding worldforged. They've since merged baselines so coa can focus on just classes and bb can focus on just world stuff.

BB is definitely further along and will release first but once vanilla releases, coa will be faster to release tbc and wotlk, they won't have to add anything to the baseline while BB has to add thousands of world forge items and shit to outlands then northrend.
 
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Both teams (rexxar/coa and bronzebeard/reborn) were trying to revamp/rebalance vanilla while rexxar was adding 21 new classes and bb was adding worldforged. They've since merged baselines so coa can focus on just classes and bb can focus on just world stuff.

BB is definitely further along and will release first but once vanilla releases, coa will be faster to release tbc and wotlk, they won't have to add anything to the baseline while BB has to add thousands of world forge items and shit to outlands then northrend.
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Which is really fine. Since they lowered xp rates to 1x (wotlk 1x) for BB. Given they already have Ony and MC ready to go on launch and will still have BWL, ZG, AQ, and Naxx to go as well, TBC and WotLK can wait.
 
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Shame these guys shit the bed so hard, the server sounded and looked really nice

Saying twow's client isnt hot dog ass is some serious cope lmao
 
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TWOW client is almost old enough to drink! November I think.
 
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Nirgon said:
Useful information like what? Really?

I played from day 1 all the way through Kara40 and killed tons of Kel'Thuzads. I didn't find a single thing to be unplayable??
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For me, I am having trouble with the massive downgrade in graphics from normal classic to Turtle.

Now, I have seen videos of Turtle that look amazing and realize there is something probably wrong on my end.

Everything seems to black , dark, and washed out...almost like textures arent loading properly. I run a 4k resolution, so normally my wow looks pretty darn crisp.
 
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For me, I am having trouble with the massive downgrade in graphics from normal classic to Turtle.

Now, I have seen videos of Turtle that look amazing and realize there is something probably wrong on my end.

Everything seems to black , dark, and washed out...almost like textures arent loading properly. I run a 4k resolution, so normally my wow looks pretty darn crisp.
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Install the HD client mod.

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Client Mods

The Turtle WoW client could be enhanced by adding mods known as packed files of data (.mpq files) for your TWoW client to load, which similar to the concept of addon. These Mods are unsupported by the Turtle WoW Staff! You must remember how to uninstall and reinstall these mods if they cause any...
turtle-wow.fandom.com turtle-wow.fandom.com
 
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TWoW is great fun at a great price of $0.00 a month. Slow and steady leveling scratches my mmo grinding itch just fine. If any of you need a little staring gold for bags hit me up in game, Cursedsoup.
 
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