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Yes you can get it on any of them, although running rainbow keeper (if you can) is your best shot at it. I believe you always get a light or dark keeper the round before rainbow, and it's a 100% drop, so in theory you have a 50% chance each clear of getting one. In reality, you'll get 100% of the one you don't want!
It's a "strong" version too, so be aware than can wreck your shit also.

Get Brand's Odin with your own healer and be prepared for some boring matching. I like using light ripper + light mech for some dmg.
 

Fazana_sl

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Now things have calmed down a bit, I finally have some proper goals to aim for :

Evolve Shiva - I wasn't going to bother but I've only just discovered his 6* form has 1.5 x hp/rcv as well as attack, that's not to be sniffed at!
Evolve Neptune at least once but aiming for double resist 7* version
Get every colour ripper to at least level 50 in 5* form
Get 2 x ADK to level 50 in 5* form
Get Siren evolved to 5* form, maxxed out and skill levelled out.
Get a second Naga/Echidna sorted.

That's going to take a while but at least it gives me something to do in almost every colour and category!

Just added some more friend slots, will be running Shiva 99% of the time so add if you need one for the weekly mask dungeons, I only boot people every few days who haven't been logged in for at least 24 hours when I check and if you have RR or SA in the name I'll probably not do it anyway.
 

foddon

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Yes you can get it on any of them, although running rainbow keeper (if you can) is your best shot at it. I believe you always get a light or dark keeper the round before rainbow, and it's a 100% drop, so in theory you have a 50% chance each clear of getting one. In reality, you'll get 100% of the one you don't want!
Ran that bullshit twice today (and once on blue) and still haven't gotten the dark keeper I need. At least I got a 2nd Rainbow. It's just soooo boring.
 

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So Fazana, are you not doing the special dungeons then? or are you able to clear master/legendary on them so you don't need to worry about farming them? After getting Noble mech, I really want the Rust mech and Sky flame, but it takes forever to farm them on expert (I'm on 30 expert rust clears, have 2 succubus from it, but still no Mech). It steals most of my stam so I'm not able to chase the same/similar set of goals...

Get Amaterasu to 50
Get Siren to 50 and max skill
Get 3 ADKs to 40 in 5*
Get every color rippper to 40 in 5*
Evolve Venus to 6*, level to 50, pick one of the ultimates
Get CDK to 40 in 5*
Evolve Naga to final form and level to 50.
 

Daezuel

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You're better off waiting for a x2 Master or getting yourself able to clear Master than running expert so many times imo.
 

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You're better off waiting for a x2 Master or getting yourself able to clear Master than running expert so many times imo.
Will they come back again? I know it seems like the Skydragons will be doing so.

Any tips for Master (or minimum stats)? Probably end up either Brand's Odin + my Ameratsu or Double CDD for leader+ally.
 

Daezuel

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Double CDD, bring a max skilled Siren if you have it, if not farm your Siren up as it's important to have. I think I go CDD/white ripper/siren/echidna/rainbow keeper/CDD.

Takes a while but it's easy if you pay attention and use cooldowns properly.
 

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Yeah, I'm about rank 20 on my tablet and just downloaded this on my phone where I'm planning on rerolling for a good starter. Why is this game so addicting...
Was talking to my fianc? the psychologist about this other day. She was going on about reinforcement schedules, long term goals, and other psychobabble stuff. At the end of her explanation I let out a really long sigh and she just said, "the pokemon didn't drop did it?" As I looked up from my Galaxy S3.
 

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Was talking to my fianc? the psychologist about this other day. She was going on about reinforcement schedules, long term goals, and other psychobabble stuff. At the end of her explanation I let out a really long sigh and she just said, "the pokemon didn't drop did it?" As I looked up from my Galaxy S3.
Skinner box in a nutshell. no doubt.
 

Composter

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Okay, I need help trying to figure out what I need to do to beat Master sky flame (I tried one time, but when attempting to charge on the very first board, I accidently got a 12 combo and couldn't survive the second board).

Here are my relevant cards:

Leader: 37 Siren the Enchantress skl 5 (563 rcv)

Healers:
32 GValk
39 Archangel
46 Echidna (4*)
Max Mermaid (3*)
19 Naga (3*)
45 Angel (4*)
49 Lilith (4*)
20 Succubus (3*)

Dragons:
12 Noble Mech Regulus
37 Sundragon Pterados
11 White Dragon
1 Red Dragon
23 Tyrannos
max Shadran
14 Graviton Earth Dragon
35 Flowerdragon Brachys
16 Annihilate Mech Hadar
25 Chaos Devil Dragon

Misc:
2x Rainbow Keeper
max Mystic Stone Knight
22 Mystic Stone Knight
30 Genie
32 Machine Golem Mk II
1 Mystic Ice Knight
Max Vritra (5*)
25 Vampire Lord
14 Vampire
30 Dark Golem Mk II
 

Grimmlokk

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OK I got some number questions.

With the dual element guys how is the damage calculated? Like if I take my Samurai Ogre and make him aWood Samurai Ogrewhen he's capped will his red damage still be full? The green will be what %?

And what's the math on combos? Like each one is X how much?

Is each orb after 3 adding 33% of the monster's damage? Like, if you have 6 orbs to match and 1 target would you be better off making a pair of 3 orbs or a single 6 orb line?
 

Fazana_sl

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So Fazana, are you not doing the special dungeons then? or are you able to clear master/legendary on them so you don't need to worry about farming them? After getting Noble mech, I really want the Rust mech and Sky flame, but it takes forever to farm them on expert (I'm on 30 expert rust clears, have 2 succubus from it, but still no Mech). It steals most of my stam so I'm not able to chase the same/similar set of goals...
I got the SkydragonFlame thingy on my first run on Master, I used my 5* 50% resist with a 6* Ameratasu healer friend and usual mono fire team subs to grind it down, I got lucky on getting the drop first time. Will never run it again, the dragon has very high atk but the HP on it is shite and chances are I'll never use it. Fucking typical tbh, the one drop I get is almost useless
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I've still never gotten a mechadragon.

As far as the special dungeons, the one I just mentioned is a rare one in that i could do it on master with my current lineup, most of the time I have to settle for expert and the droprates are so shit on the special dungeons on expert that I've just been wasting my time it seems and getting frustrated with the game. What I am going to do instead is evolve up all that stuff I mentioned which should mean once done I have many more options to get onto the master level. i forgot to mention I have a Parvarti as well, she is a damn good wood unit.

OK I got some number questions.

With the dual element guys how is the damage calculated? Like if I take my Samurai Ogre and make him aWood Samurai Ogrewhen he's capped will his red damage still be full? The green will be what %?

And what's the math on combos? Like each one is X how much?

Is each orb after 3 adding 33% of the monster's damage? Like, if you have 6 orbs to match and 1 target would you be better off making a pair of 3 orbs or a single 6 orb line?
If the dual colour is a different colour, the sub colour does 30% damage. If you have one of the rare units you can evolve to dual the same colour, you only get 10% extra damage instead of 30% from it so it's probably better to dual colour unless you will always be mono teaming that unit.

In the scenario you mentioned it is better to do two lots of 3 orbs. You get +25% damage per orb added on so you may thank 175% (a 6 orb match) vs 200% ( 2 x 3 orb matches) is close BUT what you should take into account is the combo bonus which 2 matches give you. The combo bonus is another 25% so the comparison is now 175% for a 6 match vs 250% for 2 x 3 matches. Add in any leader bonuses etc and you can see how that gap is just going to keep climbing.

With multiple targets you only need to make one 5x line to get the multiple attack counted, all the others for that colour can be any amount of 3+ and they will be added the same way.

None of this takes resists etc into account either but the basic strategy holds, more combos = more damage!

Edit:

I probably should add all this to the OP, that is if any of the newcomers bother reading it anyway
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Grimmlokk

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Exactly that I was looking for, thanks=)

I'm praying Thursday I get some worthwhile Dark damage guys to try and put together a proper team, like the idea of a dark team. COME ON LOKI! And Hades!

Speaking of Hades, the one is Dark/Dark. Does this mean the sub dark would do 40% damage?

If you have one of the rare units you can evolve to dual the same colour, you get 10% more from it.
 

Fazana_sl

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Sorry my wording sucks, no you only get 10% from it instead of the dual colours 30% so unless you will be mono teaming it, it's probably better to dual colour if you have the option.

Will edit the wording in the earlier post!
 

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Exactly that I was looking for, thanks=)

I'm praying Thursday I get some worthwhile Dark damage guys to try and put together a proper team, like the idea of a dark team. COME ON LOKI! And Hades!

Speaking of Hades, the one is Dark/Dark. Does this mean the sub dark would do 40% damage?
Dark dark Hades is pretty hot, though I think it's only 110% not 140% (or 130% as would happen with double color). The double dark resist means you should just run Rust Mech constantly with auto-healer allies (add me and use Amaterasu, or the other various RR people with mermaid/Ama). Should be zero problem (and you can get a CDD and maybe a succubus from expert level). As far as Dark teams go, they're really fun, but it's harder to level them than primary color teams (no pendragas), though I think dark is easier than light because (anecdotally) I've seen more Metal dragon days than gold dragon days.

Right now I'm getting some decent dark-monster leveling through this method:
Run Rust a few times, feed one of the demons 5 other monsters from rust (demons, knights, or even lil dark dragons). Set leveled demon aside. Repeat to get 5 demons all levels 14-18. Feed 5x 14-18 demons to a dark monster for a bigger gain (most cost-efficient way to level them, from what I've found). Got my Chaos Dark Dragon (50% resist dark ripper) to 50s with it, Lilith to 50, and slowly getting Vamp Lord, Dark Golem, and Mystic Dark Knight all to evolution points. Stupid jewel dragons are taking up too much space (for future pendraga evolutions) while I wait to farm up pendras and dragon plants.