Palum
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Debate Roundabouts: Efficiency in Action or Vortex of Death
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Seananigans
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Devil's 4-way? 3 dudes and 1 chick?
I think that's just a train at that point...? This is getting confusing.
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Hoss
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- Test all way stop, uncontrolled with “traffic cop”, and roundabout (let drivers warm up in roundabout for a half an hour since we’re Americans, arguably not used to roundabouts)
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The problems is that people don't know how to use roundabouts. Roundabouts are one of the most efficient ways of traffic intersections, as cars are constantly been moved.
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Aldarion
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When the cars are traveling in intersecting paths? Yes, the solution that has the cars stopping is preferable to the solution that has the cars not stopping.
Whoever is in the roundabout has right of way over whoever is entering the roundabout, so whoever gets in first has right of way. It incentivizes aggressive driving, which is exactly what I see every time I have the misfortune to encounter one.
Meanwhile over in civilized society, we're stopping briefly and taking turns.
Roundabouts are like those cultures that dont believe in waiting in line and try to argue why their way is somehow more efficient. Some cultural values are just superior. Waiting your turn is a fundamental value of Western Civilization and roundabouts break that.
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Palum
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So you say that but it can get worse. I don't know if it's still true but back in the day, in Ohio state law says that state highways have right of way over city/town roads. Well near my Uncle's farm by Akron there were a series of roundabouts where one of the state highways intersected with a major county road, but the traffic circle was considered part of the county road. The inflow from the state route had right of way against the traffic circle. Effectively every time any traffic occurred, it just stopped solid for hours.
BrutulTM
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So you're saying you're too much of a pussy to take your slot? You're usually talking about a fraction of a second delay if someone gets in ahead of you. Whether or not you are correct about "incentivizing aggressive driving" the fact remains that even the pussies are getting through the intersection faster than they would a 4-way stop which benefits everyone, and it's not like nobody ever cuts in line at a 4-way.
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Sludig
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In po dunk not busy streets sure, or if much larger like the real ones in Europe unlike here the tiny ones with decorative shit blocking sight lines...
The tiny ones wouldn't be so bad but elderly and the illegals around here seem terrified and confused by them.
Pops
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Eventually the self-driving cars will solve this problem in an even more terrifying way but not before all the people who fear change cry even louder than they do about the roundabouts.
Considering how often my computer and phone screw up you really want to put your life in Skynet's electronic bits?
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BrutulTM
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I'm willing to wager that 90% of the objection to roundabouts is that people aren't used to them and don't feel comfortable going through them. When traffic gets backed up, people blame the roundabout because hey, you gotta blame something right?
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No no its those OTHER people who are overaggressive, don't know how to drive, etc... it is never my personal failing. It's only when all thought is removed by just following an inefficient light that I feel equal and safe.
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ZyyzYzzy
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Yes. Humans are very dumb. I once tried explaining to a friend using simple math, physics and a very generpus estimation of nerve impluse travel speed how it is literally impossible to react quick ebough traveling at 60mph being 10 feet behind the car in front of you to it stopping.
People are retarded
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Asshat wormie
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Its not a good scientific experiment but not because of what you stated. I am sure the drivers selected were not a good representation of the overall driving population. And so the experiment only suggests that there might be benefits to roundabouts over stop signs and nothing more. However it does make sense to check how well these things would work when people are familiar with the system instead of just throwing confused people at it.
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